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9 years 11 months ago #43410 by RonanL
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Am I right in saying that result doesn't change too much? Did the losing bonus guarantee us a play-off place? What about champions cup seedings?

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9 years 11 months ago - 9 years 11 months ago #43104 by kermis
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I'd happily take that scenario!

Connacht and Glasgow both with home semis. Yes please.
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10 years 12 hours ago #42999 by eezipc
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dobby wrote: What you suggest is very realistic. But rather than a draw we would get a LBP against Glasgow and end up playing Leinster in the Sportsground in the semi rather than playing Ulster in the semi. Our Ulster form has not been good so I would be happier to take on a stagnant Leinster rather than an Ulster team which is somewhat more exciting


Personally, I would prefer to play Ulster in the Sportsground over Leinster. Ulster beat Connacht twice this year already. Surely they could not do it a third time.....

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10 years 20 hours ago #42986 by dobby
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ConnachtCows wrote: Ideally, we will beat Treviso with a bonus point, and Glasgow will also beat Zebre with a bonus point.
Ulster will pick up 4 points against Leinster, who pick up nothing

That will leave the top looking like this
Connacht 73
Glasgow 71
Leinster 68

Then Dan picks up the phone and rings Pat. Asks him if he'd like to play in a nice 28-28 draw in Galway

Final table,
Connacht 76
Glasgow 74
Leinster 73

Home semi finals all around

What you suggest is very realistic. But rather than a draw we would get a LBP against Glasgow and end up playing Leinster in the Sportsground in the semi rather than playing Ulster in the semi. Our Ulster form has not been good so I would be happier to take on a stagnant Leinster rather than an Ulster team which is somewhat more exciting

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10 years 1 day ago #42944 by ConnachtCows
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Ideally, we will beat Treviso with a bonus point, and Glasgow will also beat Zebre with a bonus point.
Ulster will pick up 4 points against Leinster, who pick up nothing

That will leave the top looking like this
Connacht 73
Glasgow 71
Leinster 68

Then Dan picks up the phone and rings Pat. Asks him if he'd like to play in a nice 28-28 draw in Galway

Final table,
Connacht 76
Glasgow 74
Leinster 73

Home semi finals all around

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10 years 1 day ago #42943 by Fordie
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salmson wrote:

dobby wrote: One thing is that while champions cup is guaranteed is it not also true that Top4 is guaranteed. As I read it Connacht would need to lose both their remaining games and not secure a losing bonus point while Scarlets would need to win both their games with try bonus points and also overcome a 71 points difference defecit. That would be most unlikely


Nearly right - if we lose both games without getting a bonus point, and Scarlets get all 10 match points available, then they go ahead of us on most wins (15 vs. 14) and points differential doesn't come into it.


Still not quite there. Ulster would also require 8 points in their remaining 2 games against Leinster and Ospreys. This would seem the also over take us on points difference, with the same number of games won.

All in all, I think it safe to say Top 4 is in bag.

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10 years 1 day ago #42929 by salmson
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dobby wrote: One thing is that while champions cup is guaranteed is it not also true that Top4 is guaranteed. As I read it Connacht would need to lose both their remaining games and not secure a losing bonus point while Scarlets would need to win both their games with try bonus points and also overcome a 71 points difference defecit. That would be most unlikely


Nearly right - if we lose both games without getting a bonus point, and Scarlets get all 10 match points available, then they go ahead of us on most wins (15 vs. 14) and points differential doesn't come into it.

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10 years 1 day ago #42928 by clanman
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fascinating scrap going on for the last champions cup spot between the teams in 6th to 9th place currently, both Ulster and Scarlets in 4th and 5th have to play some of those teams and are drawn into that scap even though they are safe they have thier own battle for 4th place.

It's great looking down and knowing we sit pretty at the top with no do or die games just good options ahead of us

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10 years 3 days ago - 10 years 3 days ago #42799 by dobby
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One thing is that while champions cup is guaranteed is it not also true that Top4 is guaranteed. As I read it Connacht would need to lose both their remaining games and not secure a losing bonus point while Scarlets would need to win both their games with try bonus points and also overcome a 71 points difference defecit. That would be most unlikely
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10 years 3 days ago #42794 by Mac65
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salmson wrote: Treviso game might not matter with regards to a home semi but a win gives us a great chance of finishing top and avoiding Leinster and Glasgow in the semi.


You would expect that both ourselves and Glasgow will collect 5 points from the Italian games so 73 / 71 would be the points total going into the last game against each other.
Can't see Leinster taking anything other than a LBP against Ulster in Belfast ATM so they will have 69 going into the last round.
It's winner take all on the 7th May. Win and its finish top and a home semi. Loose and I think it will be away to Leinster.

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10 years 3 days ago #42790 by salmson
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Treviso game might not matter with regards to a home semi but a win gives us a great chance of finishing top and avoiding Leinster and Glasgow in the semi.
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10 years 3 days ago - 10 years 3 days ago #42783 by pinky
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Looking at the table now, the Treviso game is almost irrelevant. No matter what way it goes, if we beat Glasgow it's a home semi and if we lose we're away.
Of course if it's a draw, the four points in Italy will come in handy alright.
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10 years 3 days ago #42777 by eezipc
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connachta wrote: I woke up and realised :
It's ChampionsCup and play-off time baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo:


Yup, I was not sure that actually happened. Had to check the news again this morning to make sure. My head will be sore all week reading about this result.
Can everyone add all links about this result to the "Connacht in the media" page. I want to read each and every one of them. :woohoo:

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10 years 3 days ago - 10 years 3 days ago #42775 by connachta
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I woke up and realised :
It's ChampionsCup and play-off time baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo:
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10 years 4 days ago #42746 by eezipc
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Losing bonus point and champions cup is guarenteed.
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10 years 4 days ago #42743 by Borders no.2
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Ulster as expected cruising to all 5 points in Italy which will move them to within 3 of us when we kick off. Their run-in is tough though with Leinster (h) and Ospreys (a). Upside of the Scarlets result earlier is it should pretty much guarantee we'll finish above them.

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