So what you're saying really is that Sky should also make everyone talk as Gaeilge!

TBF when you hear Sheehan talking about scrums you wonder what he was doing in there himself? He doesn't seem to have a clue.

At least Horgan has a decent eye for attacking shape and defensive shape for the backs. He could do with a little less blagging about what is going on with the forwards though.

pinky wrote: 1. We get on grand on the Clan Terrace every week with no commentary
2. Most of the commentary on RTE/Sky Sports is barely worth listening to anyway
3. Without TG4 there'd be feck all Connacht games on at all
4. A top-notch English-language audio broadcast is available on Galway Bay FM
5. The Irish for Bundee Aki is Bundee Aki

Its funny, from time to time when I don't make the game and the game is on both Sky Sports and TG4 I tend to use TG4 to watch the game. The primary reason for this is not fluency in the Irish language but purely being so annoyed with the drivel that Horgan and Sheehan talk. Prime example was the Connacht Leinster game which I taped. The two of them were on an absolute roll. Then, in and abouts the 75 minute, the two lads suddenly notice that Leinster are still behind and then they start to get concerned. Horgan hasn't a clue who even plays on the Connacht team, he is constantly being corrected, while Sheehan only talks scrums so I find myself getting really shagged off. Better to listen to commentary that you don't understand than commentary that is utterly meaningless drivel. And since Bundee Aki is the same in Irish as English that's much of the commentary covered anyway

1. We get on grand on the Clan Terrace every week with no commentary
2. Most of the commentary on RTE/Sky Sports is barely worth listening to anyway
3. Without TG4 there'd be feck all Connacht games on at all
4. A top-notch English-language audio broadcast is available on Galway Bay FM
5. The Irish for Bundee Aki is Bundee Aki

dobby wrote: tg4 response to providing an english audio stream

, a chara
Fuair muid do theachtaireacht. Go raibh maith agat.

We got your message (below) and appreciate your taking the time to share your views with us.

TG4 fully understands that many viewers are not totally fluent in Irish. Accordingly, we make every effort to ensure that their lack of fluency in Irish does not detract excessively from their enjoyment of our sports coverage.

In the case of TG4’s rugby coverage, the scoreboard, a match clock, regular on-screen graphics regarding substitutions, yellow cards etc, a regular feed of the “Ref-link” comments as well as regular in-match analysis (from Marcus Horan or Damien Varley) as well as pre and post-match interviews in English are all intended to make our coverage as inclusive as possible for those not fluent in Irish.

However, television is a visual medium and the pictures tell most of the story, or should, just as you view the action when attending a match

TG4 is an Irish language channel. That is our remit. All of our live sports coverage commentary - Gaelic games, cycling, tennis, horse-racing, snooker, soccer and rugby - is in Irish and has been since our establishment twenty years ago. This policy is the same for all sports. TG4 rugby commentary is in Irish and has been for all the competitions we’ve covered over the past fifteen years at schools, club and international level. (We pioneered coverage of schools' on national tv.)

Feedback from viewers (including those not fluent in Irish) has been to compliment us on making coverage of these rugby competitions available on free tv and welcoming our Irish language commentary and the inclusive approach we’ve adopted to try to make the coverage accessible to all by the means listed above.

Other channels offer match commentary in English. We offer it in Irish in as an inclusive a manner as we can devise.
The vendors of these television rights chose TG4, fully aware of our track record and sports coverage policies.

Le meas

Pádhraic Ó Ciardha

All well and good but he should remember:-

1/. Many viewers have no Irish.
2/. S4C (a channel broadcasting in Welsh - which is their remit) has a red button option for a live commentary in English. There's no reason TG4 can't provide this option.
3/. The league's primary concern is revenue, not language.

menacethedenis wrote: Franno being mildly complimentary about us today. You can guarantee he'll be the first to put the boot in if we don't win the league though

www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-...e-slip-34686559.html

Very very mildly. Blink and you'll miss it. This is good though.
"Leinster are playing like a little old lady in a 10-year-old Nissan Micra 200 metres from the traffic lights but with the foot on the brake waiting for the lights to turn orange. The other teams are going through the junction no matter what colour the lights are."

Franno being mildly complimentary about us today. You can guarantee he'll be the first to put the boot in if we don't win the league though

www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-...e-slip-34686559.html

FACECUTTR wrote: I want to know who these top level players are !

I think it was players from Connachts top rivals as opposed to top players from Connachts rivals that Pat alluded to.

The Indo put their particular twist on it to confuse the matter.

As an aside I have been speaking to a man who advises up and coming players in the Leinster schools, he was telling me that they (the players) are now actively looking west in their options whereas they wouldnt even dream of going west a couple of seasons ago.

dobby wrote:
, a chara

[misses the point]

Le meas

Pádhraic Ó Ciardha

Fair play to him for responding...but I could argue with nearly every line of that starting with (1) the problem is not that some viewers are not totally fluent, it's that, even after decades of having it rammed down their throats the vast majority don't even have a basic grasp of Irish, through to (23) I'm pretty sure that the sole reason the rights were awarded to TG4 was because they offered the vendors more of the license fee than the other free to air broadcasters; the vendors did not take your remit of ramming Irish down people’s throats into account.

(I personally like Irish by the way, but that's a result of summers in Camus, not the wildly successful state policy of driving people to resent it)

[edit] Of course if RTE had the rights we'd probably have far fewer televised Connacht games...so eh, keep up the good work TG4.

FACECUTTR wrote: I want to know who these top level players are !

Maybe he received emails from dan-ihateparis-carter@hotmail.com, isreal-notthecountry-folau@gmail.com and jonathan-iloveunion-thurston@yahoo.com?

tg4 response to providing an english audio stream

, a chara
Fuair muid do theachtaireacht. Go raibh maith agat.

We got your message (below) and appreciate your taking the time to share your views with us.

TG4 fully understands that many viewers are not totally fluent in Irish. Accordingly, we make every effort to ensure that their lack of fluency in Irish does not detract excessively from their enjoyment of our sports coverage.

In the case of TG4’s rugby coverage, the scoreboard, a match clock, regular on-screen graphics regarding substitutions, yellow cards etc, a regular feed of the “Ref-link” comments as well as regular in-match analysis (from Marcus Horan or Damien Varley) as well as pre and post-match interviews in English are all intended to make our coverage as inclusive as possible for those not fluent in Irish.

However, television is a visual medium and the pictures tell most of the story, or should, just as you view the action when attending a match

TG4 is an Irish language channel. That is our remit. All of our live sports coverage commentary - Gaelic games, cycling, tennis, horse-racing, snooker, soccer and rugby - is in Irish and has been since our establishment twenty years ago. This policy is the same for all sports. TG4 rugby commentary is in Irish and has been for all the competitions we’ve covered over the past fifteen years at schools, club and international level. (We pioneered coverage of schools' on national tv.)

Feedback from viewers (including those not fluent in Irish) has been to compliment us on making coverage of these rugby competitions available on free tv and welcoming our Irish language commentary and the inclusive approach we’ve adopted to try to make the coverage accessible to all by the means listed above.

Other channels offer match commentary in English. We offer it in Irish in as an inclusive a manner as we can devise.
The vendors of these television rights chose TG4, fully aware of our track record and sports coverage policies.

Le meas

Pádhraic Ó Ciardha

I want to know who these top level players are !

Not sure why he should show some discretion, if there is one thing Pat has taught us is we no longer have to tiptoe around our bigger uglier cousins anymore. Unless of coarse it's Niyi or Matt they've been tiptoeing around Pro12 defences all season.

www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-...nnacht-34683442.html

A little more discretion would have been a better idea Pat.

Nice to see...5 Connacht players in the WalesOnline team of the year

www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-...season-only-11280894

clanman wrote: aside from performances in the pro12 and Champions cup it's baffling when you consider Ireland's poor performance in both the WC and 6 Nations, Bundee has been streets ahead of the other 4 players on the pitch when you take in to consideration pro12 performances. no problem though he'll be rewarded by the connacht boys anyway this weekend and get connacht own player of the year.

I'd say he's nailed on as Pro12 player of the year.