What day is it? It's take out the trash day!

(Though President Bartlett would be disappointed they didn't wait until 4pm)

connemara man wrote: Connacht Rugby and the IRFU can confirm that Kieran Keane will depart the province with immediate effect.



Following the announcement, Connacht Rugby CEO Willie Ruane wished Kieran Keane well for the future: “After an assessment of the direction in which Connacht Rugby was going we have come to an agreement with Kieran Keane that he will leave the province with immediate effect. I would like to thank Kieran Keane for his efforts with Connacht Rugby this season and wish him well for the future.”



Commenting on the replacement process, Willie Ruane added: “In conjunction with the IRFU we will now begin the process of recruiting a new Head Coach”.

Very impressive update - you can see how it took two weeks to prepare.

See, no difference

No material effect.

Don't get the whole hulaballoo about lack of confirmation. Things take time to get done. Does it affect fans daily lives?

Anyway onto the GAA......

Connacht Rugby and the IRFU can confirm that Kieran Keane will depart the province with immediate effect.



Following the announcement, Connacht Rugby CEO Willie Ruane wished Kieran Keane well for the future: “After an assessment of the direction in which Connacht Rugby was going we have come to an agreement with Kieran Keane that he will leave the province with immediate effect. I would like to thank Kieran Keane for his efforts with Connacht Rugby this season and wish him well for the future.”



Commenting on the replacement process, Willie Ruane added: “In conjunction with the IRFU we will now begin the process of recruiting a new Head Coach”.

Podge57 wrote: I honestly believe that there are contractual issues with KK that are contentious and as such Willie and Connacht Rugby(and IRFU) have been advised from a legal perspective not to comment - in the long term any public commentary may cost more money!

However I do agree that the way this has been handled is very poor and that any outstanding issues with KK should have been resolved by now.

? Is KK still in Galway or has he returned to NZ

In the interim suggest not wasting your energy on a rant as this matter will have to follow its own course and no amount of commentary on this forum or elsewhere will change that.

But it'll make me feel better :lol:

I honestly believe that there are contractual issues with KK that are contentious and as such Willie and Connacht Rugby(and IRFU) have been advised from a legal perspective not to comment - in the long term any public commentary may cost more money!

However I do agree that the way this has been handled is very poor and that any outstanding issues with KK should have been resolved by now.

? Is KK still in Galway or has he returned to NZ

In the interim suggest not wasting your energy on a rant as this matter will have to follow its own course and no amount of commentary on this forum or elsewhere will change that.

Two weeks on and still nothing from our Dear Leader Willie Ruane. What a wonderful way to run an organisation!

It goes both ways, Pat Lam spoke extensively about it at the time.

Mark Mostyn wrote:

RoadRunnerR1 wrote:

WillieMason wrote: Its believed kk is now holding out for full payment of his contract along with other fees owned and is refusing to sigh anything which would stop him speaking about his time with connacht rugby. He is ready to spill the beans and is pissed. Its seems like there was a boys club or jobs of the boys culture developing at connacht which he didn't play ball with. It wont be easy sigh another overseas couch after the way a 64yr old highly regarded man who came from the other end of the world was treated after 9 months.

It'll soon be two weeks since the news of KK dismissal broke and still no official word from CBIRFU or even head office. Why is that ?, as we all Know that KK has a 6 month notice clause in his contract so surely all they have to do is pay him 6 months salary + any bonuses he may be entitled to and move on to finding a successor, signing the necessary players and starting preparations for next season. The only reason I can think of that this has not already happened is his alleged refusal to sign a non-disclosure agreement as alluded to by WillieMason. If this is the case, then what are they so worried about coming out. Meanwhile, our competitors for the conference basement next season continue to strengthen and prepare for next season.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44051836

Thankfully affordable strong and aggressive ball-carrying second rows do tend to grow on trees so not to worry. Now I'll just go get my tinfoil hat and meet Dobby for a pint.

Do we know that the 6 month clause works both ways though?

It wouldn't make sense for it to go only one way. It's the IRFU that insists on putting this clause into all contracts first and foremost to allow them to dispose of any coaches deemed to be under performing without having to pay them the full remaining balance of the contract. It could be argued that a secondary reason is to give the ample time to find a replacement should a coach decide to move on but in reality without the clause they'd be in a position to force said coach to remain until they did find a replacement. If he were to leave without agreement, then he would forfeit the rest of his salary and couldn't work again as a professional Rugby Union coach unless another club stepped in and came to a financial agreement with the IRFU. Case in point here is Johan Goosen.

www.the42.ie/johan-goosen-cheetahs-munst...rn-3954029-Apr2018/b

Without the 6 month clause, the IRFU would end up paying both the remaining contract of the terminated coach on top of the contract of the incoming coach and we know they cannot afford to get caught in that situation, so it's primary function is to save money.

Lads the big question no one is asking...

Will Galway bate Mayo?!

Mark Mostyn wrote:

RoadRunnerR1 wrote:

WillieMason wrote: Its believed kk is now holding out for full payment of his contract along with other fees owned and is refusing to sigh anything which would stop him speaking about his time with connacht rugby. He is ready to spill the beans and is pissed. Its seems like there was a boys club or jobs of the boys culture developing at connacht which he didn't play ball with. It wont be easy sigh another overseas couch after the way a 64yr old highly regarded man who came from the other end of the world was treated after 9 months.

It'll soon be two weeks since the news of KK dismissal broke and still no official word from CBIRFU or even head office. Why is that ?, as we all Know that KK has a 6 month notice clause in his contract so surely all they have to do is pay him 6 months salary + any bonuses he may be entitled to and move on to finding a successor, signing the necessary players and starting preparations for next season. The only reason I can think of that this has not already happened is his alleged refusal to sign a non-disclosure agreement as alluded to by WillieMason. If this is the case, then what are they so worried about coming out. Meanwhile, our competitors for the conference basement next season continue to strengthen and prepare for next season.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44051836

Thankfully affordable strong and aggressive ball-carrying second rows do tend to grow on trees so not to worry. Now I'll just go get my tinfoil hat and meet Dobby for a pint.

Do we know that the 6 month clause works both ways though?

IMO it is an infringement of employment rights the employer can give a request for the employee but not the other direction as infringement of employee and would be subject to unfair dismissal.

RoadRunnerR1 wrote:

WillieMason wrote: Its believed kk is now holding out for full payment of his contract along with other fees owned and is refusing to sigh anything which would stop him speaking about his time with connacht rugby. He is ready to spill the beans and is pissed. Its seems like there was a boys club or jobs of the boys culture developing at connacht which he didn't play ball with. It wont be easy sigh another overseas couch after the way a 64yr old highly regarded man who came from the other end of the world was treated after 9 months.

It'll soon be two weeks since the news of KK dismissal broke and still no official word from CBIRFU or even head office. Why is that ?, as we all Know that KK has a 6 month notice clause in his contract so surely all they have to do is pay him 6 months salary + any bonuses he may be entitled to and move on to finding a successor, signing the necessary players and starting preparations for next season. The only reason I can think of that this has not already happened is his alleged refusal to sign a non-disclosure agreement as alluded to by WillieMason. If this is the case, then what are they so worried about coming out. Meanwhile, our competitors for the conference basement next season continue to strengthen and prepare for next season.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44051836

Thankfully affordable strong and aggressive ball-carrying second rows do tend to grow on trees so not to worry. Now I'll just go get my tinfoil hat and meet Dobby for a pint.

Do we know that the 6 month clause works both ways though?

WillieMason wrote: Its believed kk is now holding out for full payment of his contract along with other fees owned and is refusing to sigh anything which would stop him speaking about his time with connacht rugby. He is ready to spill the beans and is pissed. Its seems like there was a boys club or jobs of the boys culture developing at connacht which he didn't play ball with. It wont be easy sigh another overseas couch after the way a 64yr old highly regarded man who came from the other end of the world was treated after 9 months.

It'll soon be two weeks since the news of KK dismissal broke and still no official word from CBIRFU or even head office. Why is that ?, as we all Know that KK has a 6 month notice clause in his contract so surely all they have to do is pay him 6 months salary + any bonuses he may be entitled to and move on to finding a successor, signing the necessary players and starting preparations for next season. The only reason I can think of that this has not already happened is his alleged refusal to sign a non-disclosure agreement as alluded to by WillieMason. If this is the case, then what are they so worried about coming out. Meanwhile, our competitors for the conference basement next season continue to strengthen and prepare for next season.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44051836

Thankfully affordable strong and aggressive ball-carrying second rows do tend to grow on trees so not to worry. Now I'll just go get my tinfoil hat and meet Dobby for a pint.

IRFU covered it up.

Jesus how did I not notice he was gone?!

RoadRunnerR1 wrote:

Mark Mostyn wrote:

WillieMason wrote: Really feel for KK i for one will not be renewing my season ticket as a west of Ireland man i know all to well how poorly we have been treated by our neighbours and it turns my stomach to think connacht rugby has treated kk so badly, these are not the values of the people out west.

I hear from in camp this was player power plus the backroom staff. KK was unhappy when he arrived at the lack of preparation and work ethic throughout the club most likely as a result of pats long goodbye. kk became disillusioned at the lack of accountability and acceptance of lower standards something he clashed over with Nigel along with the contract renewals for injury prone players which he wanted out . KK clashed with some senior players be it mul over penalty count or jacks kicking. KK believed some players were going through the motion and were just collecting a pay cheque he pulled them up on it and told them some hard truths.

Its believed kk is now holding out for full payment of his contract along with other fees owned and is refusing to sigh anything which would stop him speaking about his time with connacht rugby. He is ready to spill the beans and is pissed. Its seems like there was a boys club or jobs of the boys culture developing at connacht which he didn't play ball with. It wont be easy sigh another overseas couch after the way a 64yr old highly regarded man who came from the other end of the world was treated after 9 months.

Nigel,willie,mul have a lot to answer for. Time to stop living off that pro12 title

This was going on well before Pat's long goodbye, we lost 41-5 to Glasgow at home in our first game after winning the league. Pat himself called out the players in the press for milking the league win. I hope he does spill the beans to be honest.

I most definitely agree and I'm sickened to think that the man who could see the rot that had set in and had the b***s to front up to the bu****iting, lip service paying bureaucrats that are collecting nice salaries while blindly leading this club to ruin, is the one to get sacked. As regard the comment as to his sacking being a done deal despite the support of the fans, well if we took that approach back when the IRFU tried to dispose of us well I suppose we wouldn't be having this conversation now. This is our club. We pay our hard earned money on season tickets, merchandising and many other revenue streams for the branch. I don't know what needs to be done or how it should be done but our voices should be heard in Dublin before we loose KK and get stuck with the same old s**t season after season.

I miss Dobby