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The road to Bilbao - Challenge Cup 2017/18

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8 years 3 months ago #59611 by pinky
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I guess for Paris to have something to play for, they need either Dragons to beat Bordeaux or Brive to beat Worcester. Hopefully they'll give it a go, though they might have one eye on the game against Pau the following Sunday.

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8 years 3 months ago #59608 by connachta
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Well good, Toulouse are out
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8 years 3 months ago #59604 by connachta
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yeah but that's over now; except if they lose. Which could always happen in Russia/Georgia as I'm sure they will make rotations (they are well placed in premiership!)

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8 years 3 months ago #59603 by green13
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connachta wrote: Newcastle handicap + 38, we're +1

They'd go to Russia with a 14-point-deficit on us. Would take that

And BTW we have the slight but noticable advantage to play half an hour later than Falcons next Saturday.
Being informed, we'd be able to push for a late try or take the pen depending on what is needed


That match is 2pm local time in Tbilisi which is 10am our time so our lads will know what they need to do long before kick off at 2.30pm.

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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59592 by Mark Mostyn
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So it looks like Newcastle have the no. 1 seed sewn up.

We really need the no. 2 seed as that would mean a home quarter and semi. It is impossible for the no. 3 or 4 seed to get a home semi.

Pool 3 will have a big say in whether or not we finish no. 2. I'm assuming Pau will beat Zebre, so it comes down to Gloucester v Pau next week. If Pau win, we will be no. 3. If Gloucester win without a BP and we win with a BP we get no. 2. If both ourselves and Gloucester get BPs we need to win by 38 more points.

If Edinburgh beat Stade away we won't have a home semi.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59574 by connachta
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Newcastle handicap + 38, we're +1

They'd go to Russia with a 14-point-deficit on us. Would take that

And BTW we have the slight but noticable advantage to play half an hour later than Falcons next Saturday.
Being informed, we'd be able to push for a late try or take the pen depending on what is needed
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59573 by connachta
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Another possibilty : Stade français home in front of French TV don't let Edinburgh take the BP

Connacht would then need to trash Oyonnax by 50ish points. Not impossible as I'm deeply convinced they'll send a real "Academy team". They're busy enough to try a desperate salvage operation in Top14.
4 tries a half. If it's sunny!

EDIT : My bad, it would need a hundred point difference. Not possible
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59572 by connachta
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salmson wrote: A win for us tomorrow gives Stade back control of their destiny too - beat Edinburgh with a bp and they're definitely through.


I don't really care about them, a win for us tomorrow gives Connacht back control of their destiny :)

I'm pretty sure we can outscore Oyonnax A in the Sportsground by the same margin as Newcastle in Russia for round 6.
So except a 50+ point-gap on Sunday for Falcons (which could happen..), a win of any kind at Sixways is enough. IMO
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8 years 3 months ago #59571 by salmson
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A win for us tomorrow gives Stade back control of their destiny too - beat Edinburgh with a bp and they're definitely through.

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8 years 3 months ago #59570 by connachta
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Edinburgh was 1 min for being beaten at home, but anyway, with Gloucester and Newcastle Falcons I highly doubt 25 would have been enough to be top 2 overall.

Now it's cristal clear : it's a win or nothing for a home SemiFinal
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59569 by salmson
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Things going our way so far tonight. No tries at halftime in Murrayfield and Gloucester with all to play for against Pau next weekend after getting all 5 points away to Agen.

Edit: Edinburgh squeak through by one point, Stade good as out. Edinburgh will finish on 24-29 points, Newcastle on 28, Gloucs likely on 26.

Permutations....

10 points in the next two games would guarantee top 2 seeding (home q/f and possible home semi)...

... while 9 points *should* be enough as we've a big points difference advantage on Newcastle...

... unless Edinburgh lose at Stade, in which case any old wins will do.

Even nothing tomorrow and a 4 pointer vs. Oyannax would give us a home q/f, unless Cardiff stick 70 on Toulouse & then get a 5-pointer at Lyon :lol:
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8 years 3 months ago #59555 by St Placide
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pinky wrote: Paris have are close enough to their home Top 14 backline for the Murrayfield trip, but have a lot of changes in the pack. Much stronger than the side that won in the Madejski but you'd imagine Edinburgh should have the beating of them. Giving themselves a chance though.


Aye, it's a decent side (watch for Tony Ensor who is on fire this season) but not a first XV. Bench is a little bit light though...

Hopefully, they'll sneak a win and start my weekend off on a bright note.

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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59545 by connachta
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Embra team 100% full-strength
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8 years 3 months ago #59540 by pinky
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Paris have are close enough to their home Top 14 backline for the Murrayfield trip, but have a lot of changes in the pack. Much stronger than the side that won in the Madejski but you'd imagine Edinburgh should have the beating of them. Giving themselves a chance though.

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8 years 3 months ago #59536 by Moy
I purchased tickets on Dec 13th to both matches; they seem to release a few rows of tickets at random times. When I got mine they picked probably 8 sections around the stadium and released 2-3 rows per section. I would figure out logistics of getting and staying there before worrying about the tickets. I have a feeling there are going to be plenty of tickets released and because the hotels and direct flights are so expensive that weekend the number of last minute travelers probably won't be that high.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #59532 by thehoneybadger
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Anyone try and buy Champions Cup tickets on the site? Challenge cup available alright but Champions Cup options seem to be frozen (but not all sold out). Was looking at flights and travel yesterday to try and figure out a plan. Have been to Bilbao and San Seb before so thinking maybe setting Madrid as the base as plenty of flights in and out of there.
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