Oyonnax is very close to Geneva. Therefore, duty free

That or Worscter sound live fun. All depending on the dates

pinky wrote: They are terrible at explaining the rules during the draw though (probably because the guys doing it don't fully understand them and are just reading the instructions off the screen).
They were very careful to explain (in French) the rule about a Russian team not being allowed to be drawn with two French teams even though it's totally a redundant rule, but it would be simple enough to say "Worcester have to go into Pool 5 because it's the only one left without a Premiership team in it" rather than mumbling something about key principles.
Anyway, it's done now. Northampton's reward for winning the playoff (which would have been our pool if you ignore chaos theory) is Saracens, Clermont and Ospreys. Mouthwateringly insurmountable.

To be honest Pinky, I'm supposed to be working, so was watching it out of one eye with the sound down. So its kind of my own fault that I got the wrong end of stick!

Was thinking that too, if we'd got in away trips to Allianz and Marcel Michelin would have been very tough, but let's hope we can do a good job in the Challenge cup, great draw for the Irish in the Champions cup I thought

They are terrible at explaining the rules during the draw though (probably because the guys doing it don't fully understand them and are just reading the instructions off the screen).
They were very careful to explain (in French) the rule about a Russian team not being allowed to be drawn with two French teams even though it's totally a redundant rule, but it would be simple enough to say "Worcester have to go into Pool 5 because it's the only one left without a Premiership team in it" rather than mumbling something about key principles.
Anyway, it's done now. Northampton's reward for winning the playoff (which would have been our pool if you ignore chaos theory) is Saracens, Clermont and Ospreys. Mouthwateringly insurmountable.

salmson wrote: Brive - W8 L4 in last 2 seasons in Challenge Cup. So not great from a qualification or travel POV.
Worcester - Nice place, reputedly a good stadum to visit, and they don't give a toss (W2, L10) the last few years.
Oyannax - Little over an hour from Geneva. Playing wise the last few times they were in this competition they fell between the other 2 in terms of performance.

Worcester stadium is not long upgraded and they have done a great job. Tickets can be difficult to get for big games and expensive.

Worcester should be a nice town for travelling support, I have only ever driven through it but has plenty of pubs and character.

So what do we know about Oyonnax, they topped the D2 this year so that's not bad!

Thanks guys I completely forgot about that! Doe!

Enrico in the first 3 pools they are keeping teams from the same league apart.

EnricoPalazzo wrote: Alright, I'm looking at the champion cup draw and somehow I feel i'm not understanding something. Why is it for the second and third place in each pool, all of the numbered pool balls don't go into the container?

Because at the end of Tier 3 draw you want one team from each league in each pool. The punishment of being drawn into a pool with another team from your league is reserved for the Tier 4 sides. This has been the way from the very beginning of European competition.

Alright, I'm looking at the champion cup draw and somehow I feel i'm not understanding something. Why is it for the second and third place in each pool, all of the numbered pool balls don't go into the container?

Brive - W8 L4 in last 2 seasons in Challenge Cup. So not great from a qualification or travel POV.
Worcester - Nice place, reputedly a good stadum to visit, and they don't give a toss (W2, L10) the last few years.
Oyannax - Little over an hour from Geneva. Playing wise the last few times they were in this competition they fell between the other 2 in terms of performance.

Decent draw, but not too glamourous. Branch marketing dept may have it's work cut out getting the crowds in for these games

Not too bad of a draw, but is right in the middle of reasonably handy draw and one to get competitive fixtures from, I'd expect us to get out but two away trips to France is never easy

I've edited this because I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea, But I have to say the I think they make this draw overly complicated.

Very doable.
I just hope we get Brive away in October when it's easy to get to. Oyonnax is handy enough.

Oyonnax ..