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The road to Bilbao - Challenge Cup 2017/18

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #59751 by pinky
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In theory, but don't think there's been a Thursday QF since the ERC days.
If they have one, it'd most likely be Newcastle or Edinburgh as Friday is a public holiday there.
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8 years 2 months ago #59750 by ThisYearWillBeDifferent
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Podge57 wrote: Hi,

Are potential Thursday night games ruled out now we are at 1/4 final stage? Gloucester have featured in quite a few!

I Hope that is the case.


EPRC fixtures page says 29/30/31 Mar, 1 April. 29th is a Thursday.
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8 years 2 months ago #59745 by Podge57
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Hi,

Are potential Thursday night games ruled out now we are at 1/4 final stage? Gloucester have featured in quite a few!

I Hope that is the case.

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8 years 2 months ago #59743 by Bazzo
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Newname wrote: See a lot of people talking about semi-finals.
Lets worry about the quarter final and winning that first.


Nobody said it would be easy to best Gloucester, there's nothing wrong with discussing different paths to the final...
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8 years 2 months ago #59742 by Newname
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See a lot of people talking about semi-finals.
Lets worry about the quarter final and winning that first.

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #59741 by connachta
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Who are in Newcastle Falcons team?

A combination of average players (Matavesi, A.Tait...), and guys singing their swan-song, well-advanced in their 30s (Sinoti, Vickers, Goneva, Latu, DTH..). Only 1 called in the English squad (Wilson)

they're doing well on the last 4 months after being poor last year. They might be tired in April
Don't get me wrong, they'll be home so favorite. But not as much as Pau or Edinburgh would have been. It's doable!
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8 years 2 months ago #59740 by connachta
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pinky wrote:

connachta wrote: www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/news/match/falcons-7-gloucester-29

It's fu***** possible; guys!


It's possible to lose to Gloucester at home? It certainly is.


I was sure you're gonna say that.
No it's possible to win our semi in Newcastle without being Sarries/Exeter.
Gloucester are the same level as we are IMO

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8 years 2 months ago #59739 by Tall Paul
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The other point is.

Why did Darragh Leader kick when we only had 13 players on the pitch.
School boy errors, but hopefully he will learn from it. He is still young.

On the plus
We have a possible another weekend away on the beer.
And more importantly we owe Glost one big Time.
I cannot wait to meet them in the sportsground
It will be a brilliant night

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8 years 2 months ago #59738 by Tall Paul
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daveydavey wrote: it was a no brainer to kick for the posts. there was even enough time after that to go for a try.


100% agree.
2 old sayings. A bird in the hand, is worth 2 in the bush.


Take your points, the goals will come............ Sorry wrong Sport

Take your points, the tries will come!

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8 years 2 months ago #59737 by daveydavey
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it was a no brainer to kick for the posts. there was even enough time after that to go for a try.

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8 years 2 months ago #59736 by pinky
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Bazzo wrote:

Borders no.2 wrote: That's a lot of ifs and buts though. Newcastle if they needed to could probably have put up a much bigger score against Enisei. I'd love us to have been in a position of chasing 70 or 80 points yesterday though would have made it interesting and kept the game alive. As it was I think everyone wanted to just pack up and go home 5 minutes into the 2nd half.


Ah it's really only one to be fair. If we'd taken the drop goal the management were apparently screaming for we'd have been in a position to take 2nd seed. The question is why did we fail to go for it yet again. It's happened now with multiple 10s and we also know that O'Halloran is capable of doing it, on pitch leadership may have to answer for this particular problem?

Edit: completely forgot we actually turned down a relatively straightforward penalty! Worse again!


I would have gone for the win myself of course, but in their defence, I assume the logic (if indeed there was logic involved ;-)) was that the draw, combined with a likely TBP win the next weekend, guaranteed the home QF, but a top 2 seeding needed as many points as possible so better to go for 5 and risk only getting 2 than take the safe 4. The TBP would have taken points difference out of it and put them ahead of Newcastle, leaving them just needing one favour from the Gloucester and Edinburgh pools, rather than two.

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8 years 2 months ago #59735 by pinky
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connachta wrote: www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/news/match/falcons-7-gloucester-29

It's fu***** possible; guys!


It's possible to lose to Gloucester at home? It certainly is.
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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #59733 by Bazzo
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Borders no.2 wrote: That's a lot of ifs and buts though. Newcastle if they needed to could probably have put up a much bigger score against Enisei. I'd love us to have been in a position of chasing 70 or 80 points yesterday though would have made it interesting and kept the game alive. As it was I think everyone wanted to just pack up and go home 5 minutes into the 2nd half.


Ah it's really only one to be fair. If we'd taken the drop goal the management were apparently screaming for we'd have been in a position to take 2nd seed. The question is why did we fail to go for it yet again. It's happened now with multiple 10s and we also know that O'Halloran is capable of doing it, on pitch leadership may have to answer for this particular problem?

Edit: completely forgot we actually turned down a relatively straightforward penalty! Worse again!
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8 years 2 months ago #59732 by Borders no.2
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That's a lot of ifs and buts though. Newcastle if they needed to could probably have put up a much bigger score against Enisei. I'd love us to have been in a position of chasing 70 or 80 points yesterday though would have made it interesting and kept the game alive. As it was I think everyone wanted to just pack up and go home 5 minutes into the 2nd half.
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8 years 2 months ago #59731 by pinky
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Bazzo wrote:

salmson wrote: But if we'd followed that up by scoring one more try today, home and hosed, yeah.


Maybe I'm being thick but I don't think this is correct, it looks to me like Davey is correct. We finished on 26 with a PD of 123 and Newcastle on 28 with a PD of 107. If we'd got any sort of win and thus an extra 2 points from Worcester last weekend we would have been on the same points but with a better PD and thus finished 2nd seeds.


Sounds about right. Crunching the numbers down the pub, we came to the same conclusion as salmson. We had Newcastle 6 ahead on PD so taking the penalty would still have left us needing a bigger margin over Oyonnax. But looking at the tables now, it seems the win would have done us.
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