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13 years 3 months ago #13959 by ConnachtBOB
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You could look at his Leinster stats two ways

Leinster as a team score far more tries than we do as they have better players setting up opportunities for the finishers like Carr so you would expect his strike rate to be better than our finishers.

However, he failed to get a decent run of games and it's clear that with more game time a wingers strike rate improves so if he played more regularly, he could have even better stats.

After my initial whinging about him returning, I'm kinda thinking now that it can only be a good thing. More competition and he wont be on big money so wont affect getting a decent 2nd row/hooker

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13 years 3 months ago #13958 by rossie
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carrs scoring rate at leinster is no worse than any of our current wingers. in his two stints there he has scored 7 tries in 31 appearances(7 as a sub). he scored 22 in 53 appearances here.

compare that to fetu - 4 in 21 appearances.
toh- 7 in 37 appearances.
poolman- 3 in 7 appearances .
mccrea- 2 in 7 appearances.
all figures are for pro12 only.

add in griffin- 4 tries, mcsharry- 2, henshaw-0, tonetti- 0 and duffy 10.

it shows that we have a problem in scoring tries. every team needs a tryscorer. its like a soccer team without a decent striker. they will struggle to get results.

there are no guarentees with carr but the stats are in his favour.
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13 years 3 months ago #13957 by ConnachtBOB
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ummm, wrote: I'll be happy if true, but I have a few worries, which hopefully will amount to nothing. (My maths teacher always told me I'd amount to nothing, so the good news is I have previous.)

In the grand scheme of things, ignoring details, a move from Leinster to Connacht is a step down. Leinster hasn't worked out for Fionn like he'd hoped and his mindset on returning will be all important. Is he going to be coming back with his tail between his legs, or with the belief that he has something to prove? Will he be thinking his international prospects are over and he has found his level, or is he angry?

Here's hoping he has a monumental chip on his shoulder, otherwise we're not getting back the same player that left.

His scoring rate needs revitalising, here's hoping he'll get that with us.

It's funny, players leave Connacht for better prospects, training with the best players, best coaches etc. and there are coaches (Guy Easterby for one) who have insinuated that they worry that the players signed from Connacht are effectively starting from zero in terms of learning the game. I for one hope when Carr comes back that he hasn't been ruined by Leinster's coaches, he hasn't been the same player (neither has Cronin for that matter.)


That's actually quite true ummm. He'll also have to fight his way into the team now whereas before he left us he was probably in the first 5 names on the team sheet and one of our very few back line threats - now we have several more.

Although saying that, with Pat Lam in, it'll be a fresh start for everyone regardless of history so should be good competition at training right from the start.

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13 years 3 months ago #13953 by ummm,
I'll be happy if true, but I have a few worries, which hopefully will amount to nothing. (My maths teacher always told me I'd amount to nothing, so the good news is I have previous.)

In the grand scheme of things, ignoring details, a move from Leinster to Connacht is a step down. Leinster hasn't worked out for Fionn like he'd hoped and his mindset on returning will be all important. Is he going to be coming back with his tail between his legs, or with the belief that he has something to prove? Will he be thinking his international prospects are over and he has found his level, or is he angry?

Here's hoping he has a monumental chip on his shoulder, otherwise we're not getting back the same player that left.

His scoring rate needs revitalising, here's hoping he'll get that with us.

It's funny, players leave Connacht for better prospects, training with the best players, best coaches etc. and there are coaches (Guy Easterby for one) who have insinuated that they worry that the players signed from Connacht are effectively starting from zero in terms of learning the game. I for one hope when Carr comes back that he hasn't been ruined by Leinster's coaches, he hasn't been the same player (neither has Cronin for that matter.)

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13 years 3 months ago #13948 by sea_point
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ConnachtBOB wrote: I hope I'm made to eat my words, but not happy with Carr coming back. I'd take a lot of others back any day, but Carr just wanted out. I was a big fan of him when he was with us, but the way he left still tastes very sour

We've better all round wingers now anyway.

But like I said, if he scores a heap of tries and isn't the cause of a few against us, I'll be the first to cheer him crossing the line


If he has signed I'm delighted. Had no problem with him leaving, he proved with us that he was a top class finisher, you get one career and if the offers don't come for whatever reason in sometimes you have to take a leap yourself. It didn't work out as well as he had hope at Leinster, don't think that was from lack of effort. He'll be a success again when he comes back and a real asset, and if our younger players can learn from his finishing skill we can only improve as a squad...

Would really hope that we can keep Fet's as well, I really like the cut of his gib and is a brilliant addition to the squad for me.

Poolman has been excellent, period. He arrived with an injury, but since he has become fit you can see him getting sharper and sharper. Very positive player, can't wait to see how he improves next year with a season behind him...

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13 years 3 months ago #13946 by ConnachtBOB
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I hope I'm made to eat my words, but not happy with Carr coming back. I'd take a lot of others back any day, but Carr just wanted out. I was a big fan of him when he was with us, but the way he left still tastes very sour

We've better all round wingers now anyway.

But like I said, if he scores a heap of tries and isn't the cause of a few against us, I'll be the first to cheer him crossing the line
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13 years 3 months ago #13944 by Borders no.2
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Darragh507 wrote: Has poolman not been terrible for a super rugby player?

We need more from these types of signings surely?


I think Poolman has made a good start to his time here. Wasn't great against Leinster but apart from that has performed well each time I've seen him. He's here for another 2 seasons and will only get better imo. I'd like to see him settle in one position or other though.

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13 years 3 months ago #13943 by connachtexile
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Apparently the reason why Leinster wanted Niall Morris back is as a straight replacement for Carr. Put like that it makes sense. Think Morris made the smart move turning them down. This is good for all concerned. We get Carr back and the like of D. Kearney and Conway get more gametime.

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13 years 3 months ago #13942 by overstrander
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It'd be great to see Fionn come back to Connacht.

I think Danie Poolman is a fantastic player and will only get better or the coming months and (hopefully) seasons. He shows a different spark to the other lads.

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13 years 3 months ago #13940 by Wasrednowgreen
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Leinster’s Fionn Carr set for return to Connacht Rugby? - SportsnewsIreland website today

Looks like this may have actually happened and that Carr is returning to us. Had a feeling about this all year and the body language of Carr when he had a start for Leinster didn't look the best.

I was serious pissed when he left as I thought it was just totally impetuous at the time Cronin and Keatley left. But we all learn things on life's journey and Carr is no different. I have watched Connacht all season and line breakers win games They are few & far between at Connacht.

He's still young enough to cause damage and if he scores 6 - 10 tries next season with Fetu & Tiernan doing their stiff when playing , then it is a great addition for us. It he doesn't score enough tries, please ignore my last comments :cheer:

Let's go Connacht!!!!

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13 years 3 months ago #13939 by theCulk
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Darragh507 wrote: Has poolman not been terrible for a super rugby player?

We need more from these types of signings surely?


3 tries in what, 6-7 games? Better than Fets

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13 years 3 months ago #13938 by Darragh507
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Has poolman not been terrible for a super rugby player?

We need more from these types of signings surely?

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13 years 3 months ago #13937 by Borders no.2
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Good news if it comes to pass, hopefully it won't mean Vainikolo is off though as he has really started to show his best form in the last few months. With Poolman and O'Halloran there as well we'd have plenty of good options on the wing with no-one sure of their place.

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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #13934 by connolly
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I heard it of a lad his dad is good friends with Millard and he confirmed it.
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13 years 3 months ago #13933 by menacethedenis
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connolly wrote: I heard on Saturday that Fionn has <strong>signed</strong> for us next season. He signed it before the game in the rds in december


Where did you hear that?

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13 years 3 months ago #13931 by ConnachtCows
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I'd be happy to have Fionn come back to be honest. I think Tiernan has been a bit poor this season, so it might give him a kick that he needs

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