Jarvis was shooting the lights out for Wegians

Ok, big difference between AIL and Pro 12 but still, same ball, same goalposts

Jarvis' kicking is just not up to scratch and with the way he sits so far back he brings very little else to the table. I cannot understand this persistence. One very good performance does not a starting player make.


Are we watching the same matches or what? It is NOC your comparing the boy Jarvis with?

NOC is shite ...end of and EE keeps going with the boy who does what he's told in training. As for kicking, you just watch O'Connor's kicking tommorrow night with the wind blowing - you just know he going to kick them high the plank!!

Make some comments on Jarvis after Elwood gets his head out and gives him 5 or 6 starts in a row!!!

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It will be intersecting to see what size of a crowd we get tomorrow. The European champions are coming to town. In normal circumstances, with an optimistic atmosphere in the west, you'd expect to have a full house. With the way we've been playing you can expect a less than capacity crowd.
Even if it's not a full strength Leinster team that we are facing I can't work up any enthusiasm or optimism that the result will be any different to our last eleven games. Eric keeps putting out the same players who at this stage must be jaded and demoralised from all the losses. Why he doesn't put out some of the remaining squad members is puzzling, and I'm sure frustrating for them. What does Jarvis need to do to get more game time, or more importantly, how bad does OConnor have to be to be left out of the squad. O Donohoe doesn't bring anything new: he's been uninspiring when he's replaced Murphy in the past but Murphy this year has pretty much been a passenger. He does not engage in the game at all. Passes the ball then avoids involvement until the next breakdown. He has no hunger. At least Tonetti has brought some bite and hunger. McSharry has a lot to learn but has great potential.
Attitude is so important. It strikes me that the the team have begun to accept their role as losers. It's sad to think it but they no longer seem annoyed and angry at losing. Disappointed and frustrated for sure but not angry. Losing has become a habit.
We need some angry performances and some angry performers. George, Macca, JOC - let's see some pride and anger.
I'll be there tomorrow but I'm not looking forward to it. It's becoming harder to keep hoping that the next game will be the one that turns Connacht around.
2012 cannot be worse than 2011.

Diom wrote: Jarvis' kicking is just not up to scratch and with the way he sits so far back he brings very little else to the table. I cannot understand this persistence. One very good performance does not a starting player make.

It's hard to see us gaining parity with Leinster. Madigan will tear NOC a new one.

Not familiar with Jack McGrath, so will see how he goes in the front row, but with an IRFU ref I'd imagine that the 50-50 calls will be one-way traffic.

more than one good performance from jarvis btw
how many good performances has noc had?feck all
surely at this stage its worth a shot!
with noc to come on to close it out!

I'm counting this as a lose since he's picked NOC. Is that harsh? Yes. It's also truthful. As someone whose watched and supported Connacht since 2004 it's been the hardest season to date to watch. EE should be fired if we lose against Leinster it's that simple.

Diom on the munster thread you say Noc is to flat and on this one Jarvis is too deep , the Ref will needma measuring tape instead of a whistle.

I havent heard anyone suggest Jarvis is the next Daniel Carter or the certain salvation of Connacht rugby but we have issues with both of our other 10's and Jarvis has done well with his limited gametime and is playing well for his club and kicking pens for fun.

Pretty fair call for people to want to see what he's got at this level, I would be happy to see 25 minutes and go from there.

i agree diom in that we havent seen enuf of jarvis to justify this amount of support for his inclusion in starting lineup. The real problem is that we all have had a gutful of watching NOCs inability to think and a lack of any quality on his behalf. Even if he was delivering consistancy on his goalkicking we wudnt be in this position. i dont know what his percentages are on this score but he misses far too much and is showing no sign of improvement which has to be down to lack of practise.

Lets see what jarvis can do. he cant be any worse.

Diom wrote: Jarvis' kicking is just not up to scratch and with the way he sits so far back he brings very little else to the table. I cannot understand this persistence. One very good performance does not a starting player make.

It's hard to see us gaining parity with Leinster. Madigan will tear NOC a new one.

Not familiar with Jack McGrath, so will see how he goes in the front row, but with an IRFU ref I'd imagine that the 50-50 calls will be one-way traffic.

Jarvis sits back to allow room to make a backs move, something we cannot do at the moment with rush defences and flat alignment, as for his kicking it certainly no where near where it should be but that is still miles ahead of NOC.

Diom wrote: Jarvis' kicking is just not up to scratch and with the way he sits so far back he brings very little else to the table. I cannot understand this persistence. One very good performance does not a starting player make.

It's hard to see us gaining parity with Leinster. Madigan will tear NOC a new one.

Not familiar with Jack McGrath, so will see how he goes in the front row, but with an IRFU ref I'd imagine that the 50-50 calls will be one-way traffic.

25-75

Phillips was a disgrace the last day, hopefully Lacey refs the breakdown

Jarvis' kicking is just not up to scratch and with the way he sits so far back he brings very little else to the table. I cannot understand this persistence. One very good performance does not a starting player make.

It's hard to see us gaining parity with Leinster. Madigan will tear NOC a new one.

Not familiar with Jack McGrath, so will see how he goes in the front row, but with an IRFU ref I'd imagine that the 50-50 calls will be one-way traffic.

simpleton wrote: I am not a fan of touhy's but so far from what I have seen of Fetu, I wouldn't let him water the pitch mid week.

My preference for back three at present would be Gav, Toh and Tonnetti, followed by Mcrea and then going down to a young player like Leyden instead of either Touhy or vianikolo who just don't have it.

Danny riordan is a Connacht lad, far better than any of them, playing well and getting the occasional look into the Leinster a set up, if he was from Leinster we would be chomping at the bit to get him for next season.

Tbf, that's probably not the biggest issue, our pack is getting creamed and our 10 want to spend their time plsying air ball and we are discussing wingers.

Over the years we have let good players go for no reason other then their faces don't fit with EE, and you mentioned one such player in Danny Riordan. TOH will never progress if he does not work on his speed and his tracking back, which he is particularly lazy at which is exactly why Danny was let go apparently. On Fetu he has the potential he covered every blade of grass last week got stuck in, -_-ed in defenders most of his work went unseen and unrewarded but he is the man if used. But I agree no point talking wingers if they never see the ball due to a pack going backwards or a number ten whose aim in life is to try and hit the moon with the ball or even better give it back to the opposition so they can run back at us with 5 mins on the clock to steal away a win.

Game is going to be won up front given the conditions. Lets hop Wilko does a job on Hagan and we get the shove on, Loughney is holding his own on the other side which is encouraging.

I am not a fan of touhy's but so far from what I have seen of Fetu, I wouldn't let him water the pitch mid week.

My preference for back three at present would be Gav, Toh and Tonnetti, followed by Mcrea and then going down to a young player like Leyden instead of either Touhy or vianikolo who just don't have it.

Danny riordan is a Connacht lad, far better than any of them, playing well and getting the occasional look into the Leinster a set up, if he was from Leinster we would be chomping at the bit to get him for next season.

Tbf, that's probably not the biggest issue, our pack is getting creamed and our 10 want to spend their time plsying air ball and we are discussing wingers.

simpleton wrote: Fetu makes Ezra Taylor look proper quality, Touhy for all his defensive issues at least will take a chance if it comes his way.

So far the signing of Fetu must rank up their with our very worst.

Don't agree, he has huge potential but if you do not give him the opportunity or platform to work then you do not reap the benefits. If the two centres learned how to pass the ball last week we would have seen the attacking force he is. I would rather he plays how he is ,then watch Tuohy wander around the pitch like a lost puppy pointing at other people to make tackles.Plus remember Tuohy's brainfart where he tracked back(rare occasion) to gather a kick in our 22 at his own leasure only to knock on 5 yards from the line and the result was a try from the scrum. As for Taylor he used to get injured getting off the bus.

simpleton wrote: Fetu makes Ezra Taylor look proper quality, Touhy for all his defensive issues at least will take a chance if it comes his way.

So far the signing of Fetu must rank up their with our very worst.

Well at least Fetu'u made it onto the pitch, Ezra could barely do that without getting injured.

I agree with an above comment, at least Fetu'u tried with ball in hand and look some bit menacing. Tuohy is one paced and predictable. However, the propensity for Fetu'u to have a brainfart is too risky to play him

Fetu makes Ezra Taylor look proper quality, Touhy for all his defensive issues at least will take a chance if it comes his way.

So far the signing of Fetu must rank up their with our very worst.