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9 years 3 weeks ago - 9 years 3 weeks ago #53780 by salmson
Not sure how you'd blame Adeolokun for the last try, the try he carries the can for is the first one, when he dropped Carty's perfect cross kick.

Lamont's try is 99% down to Dawai. Initially we're lined up with Niyi vs. Lamont & Dawai vs. the next man infield. Lamont makes an out-to-in run and the infield guy starts to loop around to the outside. Niyi checks to see whether Dawai is lining up Lamont or if he's tracking the outside run. Unfortunately Dawai does the worst possible thing (i.e. neither) and bites in on the ball carrier (Horne I think) leaving Niyi with two men to mark. Adeolokun is indeed caught "on two different feet". Maybe he could have hit Lamont on suspicion, but if he does that you can almost guarantee the ball goes out the back for a two-on-one. You're looking at a try or a penalty for a tackle off the ball. Either way the score's out past seven and it's game over.

Asides from the admittedly awful error for the first Glasgow try I thought Adeolokun had a fine game. He scored one, was denied another by a miracle tackle from Price, and would have had an assist if Ronaldson hadn't fumbled a fairly sympathetic offload in front of the posts.

I think Niyi struggled badly over the winter, but he's still our top try scorer on 7, ahead of O'Halloran and Kelleher (in fewer games) on 5. If you discount tries against the Italians (I tend to), it's Niyi on 6 (Glasgow, Scarlets, Edinburgh, Toulouse, Dragons, Glasgow again), Kelleher on 3, and the rest absolutely nowhere. So while I reckon Kelleher should come straight into the team once fit, I'd be putting him in ahead or Ili or Healy at left wing.
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9 years 3 weeks ago #53779 by dobby

Colonius81 wrote: that sums up how I feel, Have to admire how clinical Glasgow were, but at the same time, we were just too soft, looking at the game again, it looked like our spacing was a little sparse, were we trying to defend with width but got punched up the centre a bit,

I am still heartened by the approach and the style, that is the Connacht we know and love

I don't believe so myself. If you look at Lamonts try to finish the game Niyi simply was caught on two different feet. You see the same often enough to understand that you cannot be in two places at one time so you take the tackle. You simply cannot be undecided. Undecided means you do nothing. Niyi is cracking me up a bit at the moment. He gets alienated going forward, is dropping real opportunities and defensively playing poorly. I know I am a grumpy old man but if Kelleher was available I would change for Niyi on the spot.

Brown is immense. The lineout is suddenly transformed. Everything is good again. He adds so much to this team.

That said what happened from first half to second half? And this is what I thought was interesting. Glasgow realised that kicking the ball away to Tiernan was causing them untold pain. So they stopped doing it. So Glasgow maintained possession. And then you realize that when possession is hard won and achieved Jack provides no insight. And if truth be said most teams have figured that our backline are going to play some interesting stuff. So you keep it away from them. And with Cooney and Carty there ain't much happening

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53752 by Colonius81
Replied by Colonius81 on topic Glasgow v Connacht Sat March 25th - Match Thread
that sums up how I feel, Have to admire how clinical Glasgow were, but at the same time, we were just too soft, looking at the game again, it looked like our spacing was a little sparse, were we trying to defend with width but got punched up the centre a bit, .. Also lots of missed tackles from both sides, yet .. We couldn't convert those into a couple more tries.

I am still heartened by the approach and the style, that is the Connacht we know and love .. thats what we want to see, and thats hopefully what Connacht running rugby 2.0 under KK will hopefully look like.
Also of note today, Dave Rennie current head coach of Waikato chiefs is taking over at Glasgow next season, while his no.2 KK is taking the reigns at Connacht
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9 years 3 weeks ago #53751 by Fast twitch
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phatguerilla wrote: Really disappointing in the end, to see the team swing from such dominance in the first 20 to being basically out on their feet in the last 20, is almost worse than an off performance from start to finish. Obviously have to credit Glasgow's quality defence which was so difficult to penetrate, definitely a number of incidents throughout the game intended to soften Connacht up and may have had a cumulative effect by the end. Jack's yellow card (obviously deserved) knocked the stuffing out of any potential Connacht fightback. Glasgow have a discipline issue and a more stringent referee could have found 3 or 4 or even more cardable offences there, which if they had given earlier might also have kept control on the game and prevented the recklessness of the second half (from both teams). I think Townsend's defense of his player here is very weak but he obviously has to claim innocence until after the citing hearing.


It's difficult for us to play our style of rugby when the match is being refereed in that manner. Certainly Glasgow felt able to challenge us high in the tackle etc.. without fear of any consequences from Ian Davies or the TMO. The officials weren't too bothered about offside either which cramps our style of play. We were way too soft defending outside our 22 for both of their second half tries and the restarts late in the second half will make for a tough video review. The red card for them was also a signal that he was unlikely to penalise them any further after that so play on as before.
My view would be that if we worked harder in support of our players making breaks in the first half we may have been far enough ahead going in at half time for Glasgow to have withdrawn a few more along with Finn Russell ahead of Champions Cup next week.
Missed opportunity but at least we are playing more like ourselves now.
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9 years 3 weeks ago #53745 by Bazzo

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warriorsfan wrote: Just wanted to say great game apart from that hit by Swinson. Also why on earth did Joe Schmidt not play your 15 in 6N?! He outplayed hoggy today and I think he would offer Ireland the extra attacking threat needed in the backline. Also sorry to any fans who were at Scotstoun, the booing was really bad today, I know all fans do it but our club seems to be one of the worst and it really annoys me!

Tiernan has statistically been the best full-back in the PRO12 for the second season running. He has been a player at Connacht from the tender age of 18 and has been a huge servant to the team. I do wonder if he has a future in Ireland. What is the point of being paid a fraction of what he would be paid if he were playing abroad. He obviously is not on the Irish radar and the USA/Japan tour is a totally pointless exercise. I think he really needs to think about his future now. And it is not at Connacht. He will not get any recognition playing in the Connacht green so I think he has to move for his sake. He has given all he can at Connacht and it has proven to be pointless. I certainly wouldn't think he had let the team down if he moved elsewhere. He has done his best but it simply is not good enough at national level it would seem so he needs to think about his own future


Maybe he's happy being a star player for his home province?
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9 years 3 weeks ago #53744 by dobby

warriorsfan wrote: Just wanted to say great game apart from that hit by Swinson. Also why on earth did Joe Schmidt not play your 15 in 6N?! He outplayed hoggy today and I think he would offer Ireland the extra attacking threat needed in the backline. Also sorry to any fans who were at Scotstoun, the booing was really bad today, I know all fans do it but our club seems to be one of the worst and it really annoys me!

Tiernan has statistically been the best full-back in the PRO12 for the second season running. He has been a player at Connacht from the tender age of 18 and has been a huge servant to the team. I do wonder if he has a future in Ireland. What is the point of being paid a fraction of what he would be paid if he were playing abroad. He obviously is not on the Irish radar and the USA/Japan tour is a totally pointless exercise. I think he really needs to think about his future now. And it is not at Connacht. He will not get any recognition playing in the Connacht green so I think he has to move for his sake. He has given all he can at Connacht and it has proven to be pointless. I certainly wouldn't think he had let the team down if he moved elsewhere. He has done his best but it simply is not good enough at national level it would seem so he needs to think about his own future

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53743 by FACECUTTR
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I would be the first to criticise his play but today I thought he was good. Carried well and put himself about. Certainly more mobile than JP Cooney. I think he just needs a bit of time and work.
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9 years 3 weeks ago #53742 by phatguerilla
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dobby wrote:

phatguerilla wrote: Really disappointing in the end, to see the team swing from such dominance in the first 20 to being basically out on their feet in the last 20, is almost worse than an off performance from start to finish. Obviously have to credit Glasgow's quality defence which was so difficult to penetrate, definitely a number of incidents throughout the game intended to soften Connacht up and may have had a cumulative effect by the end. Jack's yellow card (obviously deserved) knocked the stuffing out of any potential Connacht fightback. Glasgow have a discipline issue and a more stringent referee could have found 3 or 4 or even more cardable offences there, which if they had given earlier might also have kept control on the game and prevented the recklessness of the second half (from both teams). I think Townsend's defense of his player here is very weak but he obviously has to claim innocence until after the citing hearing:

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rug...6/swinson-red-carded

I do think there were some small consolations, O'Halloran looked excellent, our lock pairing were excellent, Marmion was excellent. Sky were salivating at the offloads, not 100% sure how effective they were on every occasion but certainly keeping the ball alive was important to any attack we did make. Unfortunately our bench didn't have the impact we might have liked but Robertson-McCoy put himself about fairly well and at least looks to have some solid foundations to build upon.


Personally I would pick Denis, Tom and Finlay as my front row any time. They are quality players


:dry: :dry: :dry: Don't think that was really in question and I didn't raise it as an issue? Bealham was clearly uncomfortable before his last scrum which probably had a bearing. Regardless rugby is a 23 man game and we need solid replacements.

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53741 by dobby

phatguerilla wrote: Robertson-McCoy put himself about fairly well and at least looks to have some solid foundations to build upon.

weight only. nothing else

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53739 by dobby

phatguerilla wrote: Really disappointing in the end, to see the team swing from such dominance in the first 20 to being basically out on their feet in the last 20, is almost worse than an off performance from start to finish. Obviously have to credit Glasgow's quality defence which was so difficult to penetrate, definitely a number of incidents throughout the game intended to soften Connacht up and may have had a cumulative effect by the end. Jack's yellow card (obviously deserved) knocked the stuffing out of any potential Connacht fightback. Glasgow have a discipline issue and a more stringent referee could have found 3 or 4 or even more cardable offences there, which if they had given earlier might also have kept control on the game and prevented the recklessness of the second half (from both teams). I think Townsend's defense of his player here is very weak but he obviously has to claim innocence until after the citing hearing:

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rug...6/swinson-red-carded

I do think there were some small consolations, O'Halloran looked excellent, our lock pairing were excellent, Marmion was excellent. Sky were salivating at the offloads, not 100% sure how effective they were on every occasion but certainly keeping the ball alive was important to any attack we did make. Unfortunately our bench didn't have the impact we might have liked but Robertson-McCoy put himself about fairly well and at least looks to have some solid foundations to build upon.


Personally I would pick Denis, Tom and Finlay as my front row any time. They are quality players

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53738 by phatguerilla
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Really disappointing in the end, to see the team swing from such dominance in the first 20 to being basically out on their feet in the last 20, is almost worse than an off performance from start to finish. Obviously have to credit Glasgow's quality defence which was so difficult to penetrate, definitely a number of incidents throughout the game intended to soften Connacht up and may have had a cumulative effect by the end. Jack's yellow card (obviously deserved) knocked the stuffing out of any potential Connacht fightback. Glasgow have a discipline issue and a more stringent referee could have found 3 or 4 or even more cardable offences there, which if they had given earlier might also have kept control on the game and prevented the recklessness of the second half (from both teams). I think Townsend's defense of his player here is very weak but he obviously has to claim innocence until after the citing hearing:

www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rug...6/swinson-red-carded

I do think there were some small consolations, O'Halloran looked excellent, our lock pairing were excellent, Marmion was excellent. Sky were salivating at the offloads, not 100% sure how effective they were on every occasion but certainly keeping the ball alive was important to any attack we did make. Unfortunately our bench didn't have the impact we might have liked but Robertson-McCoy put himself about fairly well and at least looks to have some solid foundations to build upon.
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9 years 3 weeks ago - 9 years 3 weeks ago #53737 by Borders no.2
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Borders no.2 wrote: There goes our chances of a Top 6 finish. Need to bounce back in the next two winnable away games and at least secure 7th.

I'm not sure I appreciate that argument. I understand that we are unlikely to make the necessary position in the PRO12 table, but today was the first time I saw rugby from connacht , as in proper rugby. Disappointing to lose but it was the first time it reminded me of the PRO12 final last year. It simply was fantastic to watch. And hugely because Browne leads the lineout, Quinn is a huge physical presence, SOB is unstoppable.

If I were to be disappointed Niyi is really making mistake on mistake and Jack simply is AIL at best


It isn't really an argument it's a fact.:unsure: Top 6 is all but gone and we need a couple of wins yet to secure 7th and the next 2 definitely offer our best chance of that. Last 3 games look very tough to be relying on them for results. I'd love to have 7th spot secured as early as possible and get ourselves primed for the play offs. Ultimately even with a win today we'd still be very unlikely to get automatic european qualification so not too downbeat about that result..

I haven't seen the game yet so am happy to hear that but to leave with a 5-0 loss having by all accounts dominated the first half and especially up a man in the closing stages is frustrating.

We definitely are in one of our better moments of the season though, our team is starting to resemble close to our best team and I'd be positive enough heading towards the play-offs if things fall right for us.
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9 years 3 weeks ago #53736 by dobby

Borders no.2 wrote: There goes our chances of a Top 6 finish. Need to bounce back in the next two winnable away games and at least secure 7th.

I'm not sure I appreciate that argument. I understand that we are unlikely to make the necessary position in the PRO12 table, but today was the first time I saw rugby from connacht , as in proper rugby. Disappointing to lose but it was the first time it reminded me of the PRO12 final last year. It simply was fantastic to watch. And hugely because Browne leads the lineout, Quinn is a huge physical presence, SOB is unstoppable.

If I were to be disappointed Niyi is really making mistake on mistake and Jack simply is AIL at best

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53735 by warriorsfan
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Just wanted to say great game apart from that hit by Swinson. Also why on earth did Joe Schmidt not play your 15 in 6N?! He outplayed hoggy today and I think he would offer Ireland the extra attacking threat needed in the backline. Also sorry to any fans who were at Scotstoun, the booing was really bad today, I know all fans do it but our club seems to be one of the worst and it really annoys me!

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53734 by Borders no.2
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There goes our chances of a Top 6 finish. Need to bounce back in the next two winnable away games and at least secure 7th.

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9 years 3 weeks ago #53733 by dobby
fantastic game of rugby. enjoyable throughout. so we didn't win but boy did we put it up to glasgow. Andrew browne was immense. Quinn Roux was immense. SOB was brilliant. It was a fantastic game of rugby. Tiernan just tore it up in comparison to Hogg. every reason to support connacht shown today. it was SO exciting

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