I presume we're all cheering for Scarlets, Sale and Bordeaux today?

Since we now need to get to 19 points to get second in our pool, it's now a near certainty that second will be good enough to qualify.
No-one from Leinster's group can get to 19.
19 is the maximum Glasgow or Bordeaux/Ulster can get to but Connacht's points difference is way ahead. Glasgow would need to beat Leicester by over 40 points and Ulster would need to make up over 100 points in their two bonus point wins.

Yes, my head is sore from looking at all the angles on this. Let's go for the win and take it from there. Hopefully no knocks or injuries from today.

wp_rathead wrote: I think :
A win 5-0 or 5-1 will get us First
A win 4-0, 4-1 or 4-2 will get us Second (Wasps will have better Match Points Head to Head)
A draw 2-2, 2-3, 2-3 or 3-3 will get us Second
A loss 1-4 or 2-5 will get us Second
A loss 0-4, 0-5 or 1-5 will get us Third (Toulouse will have better Match Points Head to Head)

Thanks for that. Gonna print that out for Sunday. There could be a lot of head scratching in the stadium at the end of the game.

sooo who else thinks we shud be eyeing a bp win in france !!!!

In truth it is probably better that they are not going into Toulouse needing just to deny a try BP win. They'll need to be more focused and play positive rugby which is more their style. Not that they wouldn't have either way, but they should just go in with the goal to win. Should be a very good game.

I think :
A win 5-0 or 5-1 will get us First
A win 4-0, 4-1 or 4-2 will get us Second (Wasps will have better Match Points Head to Head)
A draw 2-2, 2-3, 2-3 or 3-3 will get us Second
A loss 1-4 or 2-5 will get us Second
A loss 0-4, 0-5 or 1-5 will get us Third (Toulouse will have better Match Points Head to Head)

Accidentally Onside wrote: Am i right in thinking we need a point, or two points if Toulouse get the try bonus point.....definitely doable but need to really sort the defense as as good as we were going forward today we conceded a try basically every time they had the ball in our half.

That's it exactly. If Toulouse win and deny us a bonus point they finish ahead of us. If they win with a tbp and we get one bonus point, they finish ahead. If they get the tbp win and we get two bonus points, we're through. A draw or a win of any sort for us puts them put.

So we need to score 4 tries and we *should* be alright. May as well go for the 5 pointer and top the pool.

Am i right in thinking we need a point, or two points if Toulouse get the try bonus point.....definitely doable but need to really sort the defense as as good as we were going forward today we conceded a try basically every time they had the ball in our half.

Toulouse switch off and Wasps snatch it at the end. We need something next week now. Going to be a tense afternoon next Sunday.

Toulouse or wasps or a draw what do we want

Wasps with a try. 10-7. Lead probably undeserved but hopefully they can push that lead out to 8 or more.

Toulouse in the lead now. Not what we were hoping for.
John Lacey is the ref. I know that some of the clan love that guy.....

Things going well so far with Leinster sneaking the win against Montpellier tonight.

salmson wrote: Glasgow beat Munster but lose to Leicester (1 defeat in last 30-somat home Euro games). Wasps defeat Toulouse, no bonus point for either. We hoover up all ten match points available to garner a home quarter final. Simples.

I accept your offer. So this quarter final is against Munster in Lansdowne Road? I'll pencil it in.

Glasgow beat Munster but lose to Leicester (1 defeat in last 30-somat home Euro games). Wasps defeat Toulouse, no bonus point for either. We hoover up all ten match points available to garner a home quarter final. Simples.