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12 years 3 months ago #23600 by phatguerilla
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Apart from two high visibility mistakes (which didn't directly affect the game) what has white done wrong? For my money he's the best all round tight head in the country (some might say afoa but as he's increasingly missing and on the way out he's not in the running IMO). Likewise Loughney is truly ambipropsterous and younger than wilkinson or white, you're not going to find a better th than either of those unless you combine their wages and then some. If it were that easy to pick up a quality th then Munster wouldn't still have Botha or archer and Fitzpatrick wouldn't be second choice for Ireland.

George has been inconsistent this season but there's still plenty of value there if he's willing to fight for a place.

Toh I like but he does need to have a look at himself.

Tonetti should be let go IMO.

As already pointed out having a fire sale is all well and good but picking up to 10 new players of BETTER quality is a tall order.

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12 years 3 months ago #23596 by sea_point
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RonanL wrote:

ConnachtCows wrote: Unfortunately, we probably cant do a full clear out, due the size of our squad, but if we could get rid of a lot of players, in confidence that we could replace each with a better players, well then I'd let the following first team players go:

1. Loughney
2. White
3. Swift
4. George
5. Murphy
6. Parks
7. Tonetti
8. O'Halloran


It wouldn't surprise me if Dan stays around in a coaching capacity, maybe even player coach for one more season. I wouldn't have a huge problem with that, but we definitely need someone else as our main 10, whether that's someone already in the squad or someone new is the question. I wouldn't object to us getting someone with experience to help along the likes of Carty for a year or two.

I've been critical of O'Halloran over the years, but when he has come off the bench this year he has impressed me, so I'd be on for keeping him. I get the feeling himself and Dennis have a bit of a work ethic issue that Lam is trying to knock out of them, but I could be wrong.

You only have one Murphy in your list, which I assume is Frank. Agree completely. I wouldn't object to Brian Murphy being let go either. And Fafita? Tonetti has been unlucky with injuries but I'd let him go too.

I'd keep White and Loughney. Swifty is surely going to retire anyway.


Tiernan needs to go for his own sake, he's nowhere near delivering on his potential in any consistent sort of way. It seems like he needs a kick up the arse every couple of weeks to get going again, which is an indication of a player too much in the comfort zone (the downside of playing for your hometown side, with lads you've know for years).

My attitude is that I want every Connacht player to maximise his talent, even if that means moving away and playing for direct opponents. Although a LOT better in recent years, we still don't produce anywhere near the number of young talent as the other provinces so we need to ensure that indigenous talent has the pathway to deliver wherever that may be...
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12 years 3 months ago #23595 by salmson
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ConnachtCows wrote: ...I'd let the following first team players go:

1. Loughney
2. White
3. Swift
4. George
5. Murphy
6. Parks
7. Tonetti
8. O'Halloran


Signed until end 2014/15:
1. Loughney
2. White
4. George

Injury and Father Time agree with you:
3. Swift
5. Murphy
6. Parks
7. Tonetti

Why all the TOH haters? Probably available for buttons as I can't see any of the other provinces rushing to sign him, and he's (IMHO) actually pretty good.
8. O'Halloran

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12 years 3 months ago #23593 by RonanL
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ConnachtCows wrote: Unfortunately, we probably cant do a full clear out, due the size of our squad, but if we could get rid of a lot of players, in confidence that we could replace each with a better players, well then I'd let the following first team players go:

1. Loughney
2. White
3. Swift
4. George
5. Murphy
6. Parks
7. Tonetti
8. O'Halloran


It wouldn't surprise me if Dan stays around in a coaching capacity, maybe even player coach for one more season. I wouldn't have a huge problem with that, but we definitely need someone else as our main 10, whether that's someone already in the squad or someone new is the question. I wouldn't object to us getting someone with experience to help along the likes of Carty for a year or two.

I've been critical of O'Halloran over the years, but when he has come off the bench this year he has impressed me, so I'd be on for keeping him. I get the feeling himself and Dennis have a bit of a work ethic issue that Lam is trying to knock out of them, but I could be wrong.

You only have one Murphy in your list, which I assume is Frank. Agree completely. I wouldn't object to Brian Murphy being let go either. And Fafita? Tonetti has been unlucky with injuries but I'd let him go too.

I'd keep White and Loughney. Swifty is surely going to retire anyway.

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12 years 3 months ago #23591 by Rory McTiernan
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I would like to see White stay another year and Swifty is a legend and has a lot to offer,Tiernan has quality and should be kept aswell

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12 years 3 months ago #23590 by ConnachtCows
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Unfortunately, we probably cant do a full clear out, due the size of our squad, but if we could get rid of a lot of players, in confidence that we could replace each with a better players, well then I'd let the following first team players go:

1. Loughney
2. White
3. Swift
4. George
5. Murphy
6. Parks
7. Tonetti
8. O'Halloran

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12 years 3 months ago #23585 by Sol_ie
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I think Frank has done his time, a great servant of the game in Connacht but he'd be our 3rd choice scrumhalf at this stage. You can't deny that Dan is one of the all time international greats, but neither can you deny that he isn't firing like he used to (or should) and that Ronaldson and (after Saturday) Carthy deserve his spot more. Gav hasn't hit his stride really this year, don't know is it just a case of getting his head back into it or what, but we shall see.

Brian Murphy needs more time to prove himself. George is a great impact player.

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12 years 3 months ago #23584 by Rory McTiernan
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Lets be honest here guys we have a lot of dead wood who has to go? Murphy Parks the Brian Murphy is George overpaid? intresting few months ahead

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