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9 years 1 month ago #53433 by RoadRunnerR1
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Nice idea, but by the time all the disputes with French air traffic controllers are taken into consideration, it;ll probably be easier to deal with mBord na Woof and let the IRFU build us a new stadium free of charge.

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9 years 1 month ago #53432 by pinky
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St Placide wrote: I can imagine the my local authority, which recently spent EUR 110 million on a new stadium for Stade, will be too happy, nor will the players union.


Any chance we can move it over to the docks? I presume at that price it can fly ...
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9 years 1 month ago #53431 by salmson
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St Placide wrote: Disappointing news!

I can imagine the my local authority, which recently spent EUR 110 million on a new stadium for Stade, will be too happy, nor will the players union.

I assume that it's a money saving exercise decided by the businessmen that run both clubs and made with little reference to history or tradition. The two clubs are among the worst supported in the Top 14 (between them they sell 8000 season tickets, Racing averaged 8 456 a game last season, the lowest in the league, while Stade managed to attract 13 025 a week). The two clubs have a combined budget of EUR 56 million, with Stade spending more!

The press conference at 16.00 today might make things a little clearer.


It appears to be a straightforward takeover of Stade as their sugardaddy wants out. Les Deux Laurents will be the coaches and the team will play in Arena 92 (a 2nd division soccer club called Red Star is taking over the Stade stadium). Lorenzetti says the retention of players will be based on merit, youth, and loyalty to the project.

So I'm guessing Stade lock Paul Gabrillagues won't be joining [strike]Nu-Racing[/strike] RacingClubDeStadeFrancais:
"It is not a merger, it is the acquisition of Stade Francais by Le Racing ... so the death of our club, the club of Paris. I would not participate in this masquerade. Show yourself and show that we are many that love this club."
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9 years 1 month ago #53430 by Mark Mostyn
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pinky wrote: www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Top-14-u...son-prochaine/785175

Wasn't expecting that!
Presumably the new club would get the Champions Cup spot if Racing qualify so doesn't affect the playoffs really, unless Stade finish seventh, which is unlikely.

Also, presumably Grenoble now may avoid relegation, so they might want to revisit their decision to offload any looseheads they have, etc.


Yeah I was wondering how this might affect the Coulson signing too.. They're still far from safe though

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #53429 by St Placide
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Disappointing news!

I can imagine the my local authority, which recently spent EUR 110 million on a new stadium for Stade, will be too happy, nor will the players union.

I assume that it's a money saving exercise decided by the businessmen that run both clubs and made with little reference to history or tradition. The two clubs are among the worst supported in the Top 14 (between them they sell 8000 season tickets, Racing averaged 8 456 a game last season, the lowest in the league, while Stade managed to attract 13 025 a week). The two clubs have a combined budget of EUR 56 million, with Stade spending more!

The press conference at 16.00 today might make things a little clearer.
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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #53428 by pinky
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In fairness all that article does is translate the headline and proceed to explain who Racing 92 and Stade Francais are.
I figured most people would be able to take a decent stab at what "une fusion" was and use their favourite auto-translator to accomplish the rest ...
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9 years 1 month ago #53427 by Decadence
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For anyone who doesn't speak French :)

www.the42.ie/racing-92-stade-francais-3284495-Mar2017/

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #53426 by pinky
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www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Top-14-u...son-prochaine/785175

Wasn't expecting that!
Presumably the new club would get the Champions Cup spot if Racing qualify so doesn't affect the playoffs really, unless Stade finish seventh, which is unlikely.

Also, presumably Grenoble now may avoid relegation, so they might want to revisit their decision to offload any looseheads they have, etc.
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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #53408 by connachta
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I'm really pleased of what I see here. He has good handling, acts SH when needed, takes part of the back-line too. Very mobile
Would fit Connacht gameplan perfectly.
A new Denis is born

PS : Hope not, if so it would mean he's gonna be ignored by Ireland national coaches :evil:
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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #53407 by connachta
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Desperately tried to, but the links were broken
But I followed live comment from the FCG fans, and they gained many scrum penalties. The loosehead can't be outside this kind of success...

You can watch how he did last week though.
Very involved in the 1st 5 minutes if you can't see the whole game (a lineout gained, a pen conceeded, a carry, some tackles, good support)
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9 years 1 month ago #53406 by Mark Mostyn
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connachta wrote: Well dear Pinky, the situation is more confused than ever in Top14

Toulouse and Racing lost again, we might actually escape from them.

From 3rd to 12th of the table, there's only 11 points!!!!! Totally undecided!

BTW Coulson played 47 min, and the Grenoble scrum, away from home, was very dominant
Fingers crossed he's coming


Did you watch the game? How was he in the loose?

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9 years 1 month ago #53405 by pinky
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Yeah, Pau have a tough run-in.
The second last round of fixtures could decide a lot (the weekend we are at home to Scarlets).
Pau at home to Brive. Castres host Toulouse and Racing away in the derby.

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9 years 1 month ago #53404 by connachta
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There is no good opponent, but let's be honnest, Pau would be the better outcome.
Tough, Tough calendar for them though. Even if they win t'morrow, that might be a very hard task to grab more points for them
Anyway, facing an all-ex-Munster back-row of Dougall-Coughlan-Butler would be juicy

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9 years 1 month ago #53403 by essielo
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La Rochelle pulling a Connacht!!;) ;) really hope they can keep it going!love an underdog!!

Really is very close as to who will be the play off team...makes this season all the more interesting!
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9 years 1 month ago #53402 by pinky
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Yep, another stunning away win for La Rochelle in Racing. And Brive pull out another result at home to Toulouse. They're ahead of them now.
Toulouse at serious risk of not even making the playoff at this stage, but I'm not sure Racing losing is a good result. It puts them right in the danger zone.
Pau v Castres tomorrow brunchtime should be an interesting one. If Pau win they have to start to be considered as serious contenders for the barrages, and definitely a possibility for the playoff.

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9 years 1 month ago #53401 by connachta
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Well dear Pinky, the situation is more confused than ever in Top14

Toulouse and Racing lost again, we might actually escape from them.

From 3rd to 12th of the table, there's only 11 points!!!!! Totally undecided!

BTW Coulson played 47 min, and the Grenoble scrum, away from home, was very dominant
Fingers crossed he's coming
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