Injury confirmed in the Indo today, states he will miss the whole season.

www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/nolan-ago...-season-3200199.html

Tough news on the injury front for Dave. One thing about genetics, when Ronan Loughney was having his troubles staying injury free I was beginning to believe he just didn't have the genetic make-up to play on the professional level. Well, we all can see that he was able to turn it around. So it may be just dumb luck after all with Dave and after he overcomes this latest set back we'll see great things from him as well.

This is such terrible news. Feel so bad for Dave Nolan

The IMF wrote: Shocking to have happenend again. Was really looking forward to seeing him come back this year and can't even imagine how he is must be feeling at the moment. Hopefully the injury is conquerable and he will come back again.

Likewise, especially cruel beyond words for it to happen pre-season, nothing worse having spent a couple of weeks getting through the ritual pre-season beastings to be knocked back like that.

Hopefully he gets to take the time to get proper and full analysis and rehab on it so that he can come back fully fit...

Shocking to have happenend again. Was really looking forward to seeing him come back this year and can't even imagine how he is must be feeling at the moment. Hopefully the injury is conquerable and he will come back again.

ummm, wrote:

sea_point wrote: (still played, but with one eye closed during games - which was interesting to say the least).

When are you getting your refereeing qualifications?

Got them years ago actuall as it happens...

Funk It wrote: in addition, I will agree that not everyone would be able for the physical nature of professional rugby (nobody can argue that), but I believe under different circumstances, and a bit more luck, that Dave would have proven himself in the green jersey, and hopefully will bounce back and show us all in the future.

Agreed, in no way am I slighting the lad. But if you look across all Sport you will see for every one successful Professional literally dozens of lads who have not made the grade despite being outstanding atheltes at youth leve due to an injury susceptibility that is exposed as adults.

It is also possible that both breaks are totally unrelated and my previous statments are therfore are a load of baloney, but neither of us know for certain which is why we go to forums to discuss the trials and tribulations of our team and it's players...

in addition, I will agree that not everyone would be able for the physical nature of professional rugby (nobody can argue that), but I believe under different circumstances, and a bit more luck, that Dave would have proven himself in the green jersey, and hopefully will bounce back and show us all in the future.

sea_point wrote:

Funk It wrote:

sea_point wrote: Very hard lines, but that's genetics at work. Some guys despite abundant talent <strong>just don't have the physical make-up to survive professional</strong>, sorta wonder even at this young age can he survive another injury like this and succeed in the Pro Game?

I think that is a bit harsh, especially considering that he broke it last year getting taken out in a lineout against Exeter, doesn't matter who you are, when you come down awkwardly from that height gravity is the only winner.

Bit harsh, how precisely...?

I have every sympathy for the lad. I've been a front & middle line-out jumper myself for best part of 25 years at a decent level and luckily the only injury I received from being taken out at full stretch was damaged eye muscles as a result of been tipped onto my back and bashing my head onto a late spring/early summer pitch. That gave me a squint (double vision) for a year before being operated on to re-tighten the muscles (still played, but with one eye closed during games - which was interesting to say the least).

But from personal experience most times the nature of the injury you pick up is related to genetics, your inbuilt resistance to injury or being naturally a bit more flexible in the air so you are able to rotate as you fall and protect yourself. All very well being a big unit, but one of the primary jobs of a second row is to win ball at line-out time, and to survive when you're being flung up twelve feet or so in the air while your opponents push or pull you or your support is the ability to adjust your weight to be able to chase mid-air an inaccurate throw and then of course to minimise injury if your coming down hard..

I don't think saying that someone doesn't have the make up of a professional rugby player is fair after sustaining an injury from an initial awkward fall. I certainly don't know how Dave broke his leg again in yesterdays training, but you are obviously just putting that down to be more than likely lineouts again. From not knowing what happened to Dave yesterday it is hard to tell, but with it being the same leg we can make our own assumptions.

Don't know where you can draw the line between the contact area and lineouts with determining if these injurys are related to genetics. Of course genetics will play a part, as they do in every physical injury, but trying to tell a rugby player that its his genetics were the reason he got injured is a bit harsh in my mind. Its like telling John Muldoon that his arm broke against New Zealand due to genetics, or that David Wallaces knee gave out when he got tackled by Tuilagi due to genetics. Its a bit of an argument that covers "all of the above", and doesn't take into account that crap luck can be a big factor as well.

I think that the whole being able to adjust your weight argument is void if you are taken out in the air though. Brace yourself yes, but not a whole lot of control.

sea_point wrote: (still played, but with one eye closed during games - which was interesting to say the least).

When are you getting your refereeing qualifications?

Funk It wrote:

sea_point wrote: Very hard lines, but that's genetics at work. Some guys despite abundant talent <strong>just don't have the physical make-up to survive professional</strong>, sorta wonder even at this young age can he survive another injury like this and succeed in the Pro Game?

I think that is a bit harsh, especially considering that he broke it last year getting taken out in a lineout against Exeter, doesn't matter who you are, when you come down awkwardly from that height gravity is the only winner.

Bit harsh, how precisely...?

I have every sympathy for the lad. I've been a front & middle line-out jumper myself for best part of 25 years at a decent level and luckily the only injury I received from being taken out at full stretch was damaged eye muscles as a result of been tipped onto my back and bashing my head onto a late spring/early summer pitch. That gave me a squint (double vision) for a year before being operated on to re-tighten the muscles (still played, but with one eye closed during games - which was interesting to say the least).

But from personal experience most times the nature of the injury you pick up is related to genetics, your inbuilt resistance to injury or being naturally a bit more flexible in the air so you are able to rotate as you fall and protect yourself. All very well being a big unit, but one of the primary jobs of a second row is to win ball at line-out time, and to survive when you're being flung up twelve feet or so in the air while your opponents push or pull you or your support is the ability to adjust your weight to be able to chase mid-air an inaccurate throw and then of course to minimise injury if your coming down hard..

sea_point wrote: Very hard lines, but that's genetics at work. Some guys despite abundant talent just don't have the physical make-up to survive professional, sorta wonder even at this young age can he survive another injury like this and succeed in the Pro Game?

I think that is a bit harsh, especially considering that he broke it last year getting taken out in a lineout against Exeter, doesn't matter who you are, when you come down awkwardly from that height gravity is the only winner.

Dam you borders 2 for ruining my clever quip but it sucks for Nolan. Anyone know if its a clean break or messy? At least it's a position we're well covered in.

Very hard lines, but that's genetics at work. Some guys despite abundant talent just don't have the physical make-up to survive professional, sorta wonder even at this young age can he survive another injury like this and succeed in the Pro Game?

Porterbelly wrote:
The guy can't catch a break

Unfortunately he can, thats the problem. Sorry but sometimes black humour is all that can be used for situations such as this.

Porterbelly wrote: Dave Nolan broke his leg at training yesterday, same leg he broke v Exeter last year

The guy can't catch a break

Ah you are not serious. That is crap, was really hoping that Dave could shine in the Connacht jersey, he has been working so hard for it, really gutted for him now, a top lad.