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8 years 6 months ago #57601 by sligsup
Replied by sligsup on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports

Mark Mostyn wrote:

Wasrednowgreen wrote: Absolutely shameful to lose a game like that - up 5 points with two minutes to go. ALL of other provinces would never be turned over in front of their own posts with 2 minutes to go in such a winnable postion. It is simply unforgivable to lose such a game. Back to the old Connacht of not being able to close things out - terrible, after working so hard to get back in front.

There are NO EXCUSES for losing a game from such a winning position. None. Nada. Nothing being entertained. Total nonsense. Shameful.

That defeat ends our realistic interest in the PRO 14 in September. Stick a fork in us. Think its all about going through the motions now unfortunately. Furious!!!


With Ospreys and Cardiff being shite as well there's plenty to play for, need to improve fast though. Dawai and Carey in for Masterson and Bealham next week please.


You won't see Dawai next week as our with hamstring
Muldoon head doesn't seem right has had s poor start to the season.
Bundee and Marmion were immense
Stupid pens given away by Roux and McKeon twice
Deegan had a solid outing and leader more than capable

Defence coach and Carolan need to spend time On the training pitch to get them going !!!!
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8 years 6 months ago #57600 by Mark Mostyn
Replied by Mark Mostyn on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports

Wasrednowgreen wrote: Absolutely shameful to lose a game like that - up 5 points with two minutes to go. ALL of other provinces would never be turned over in front of their own posts with 2 minutes to go in such a winnable postion. It is simply unforgivable to lose such a game. Back to the old Connacht of not being able to close things out - terrible, after working so hard to get back in front.

There are NO EXCUSES for losing a game from such a winning position. None. Nada. Nothing being entertained. Total nonsense. Shameful.

That defeat ends our realistic interest in the PRO 14 in September. Stick a fork in us. Think its all about going through the motions now unfortunately. Furious!!!


With Ospreys and Cardiff being shite as well there's plenty to play for, need to improve fast though. Dawai and Carey in for Masterson and Bealham next week please.

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8 years 6 months ago #57599 by Wasrednowgreen
Replied by Wasrednowgreen on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
Absolutely shameful to lose a game like that - up 5 points with two minutes to go. ALL of other provinces would never be turned over in front of their own posts with 2 minutes to go in such a winnable postion. It is simply unforgivable to lose such a game. Back to the old Connacht of not being able to close things out - terrible, after working so hard to get back in front.

There are NO EXCUSES for losing a game from such a winning position. None. Nada. Nothing being entertained. Total nonsense. Shameful.

That defeat ends our realistic interest in the PRO 14 in September. Stick a fork in us. Think its all about going through the motions now unfortunately. Furious!!!

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8 years 6 months ago #57598 by sligsup
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8 years 6 months ago #57597 by Mark Mostyn
Replied by Mark Mostyn on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports

Borders no.2 wrote: Cardiff back again as the team to break our hearts.

With the way the fixtures are shaping up this season we needed a good start from these 4 games, for me we needed at least 3 wins but given how Ospreys have started the season a win today would still have left us in a reasonable position. Even allowing for how poor Cardiff and Ospreys are our league season died today in my view.

Painful to watch really. Bit of huff and puff early on but we never really looked like scoring a try and as the half went on Cardiff grew into the game, the try was extremely soft and really left us a mountain to climb.

Like against Glasgow we improved playing into the wind but a killer score to concede at 8-7 and the less said about what happened at the end the better. The penalty count was heavily against us in the 2nd half but defensively we look very vulnerable out wide.

To me its a bit of a hangover from last season but it also comes down to the lack of proper preparation for the season. Like last season everything seems half baked and structurally we don't look like we've a clear idea as to what we are trying to achieve.

I think Europe is our realistic target. Worcester and Brive in particular have massive worries domestically and I doubt Oyonnax will be too bothered. Like back in the bad old days we are relying on the Challenge Cup to keep our season alive.


Wilkins and Carolan have had plenty of time to implement structures, yet our players clearly don't understand our defensive or attacking systems.
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8 years 6 months ago #57596 by Cathalsmart
Replied by Cathalsmart on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
2 points here firstly we technically are 3rd in the conference as far as Europe is concerned between us and Ospreys for that spot (Cheetahs can't qualify so it is the top 3 european sides in each conference which Munster Glasgow and us atm plus 4th in each conference, I'd slightly back us over Ospreys as we do appear to be going the right way whereas Ospreys are going the opposite way).

Secondly I wouldn't be surprised but when you see Edinburgh losing to Treviso at home I wouldn't be completely surprised if we do hold on.

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8 years 6 months ago #57595 by Borders no.2
Replied by Borders no.2 on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
Cardiff back again as the team to break our hearts.

With the way the fixtures are shaping up this season we needed a good start from these 4 games, for me we needed at least 3 wins but given how Ospreys have started the season a win today would still have left us in a reasonable position. Even allowing for how poor Cardiff and Ospreys are our league season died today in my view.

Painful to watch really. Bit of huff and puff early on but we never really looked like scoring a try and as the half went on Cardiff grew into the game, the try was extremely soft and really left us a mountain to climb.

Like against Glasgow we improved playing into the wind but a killer score to concede at 8-7 and the less said about what happened at the end the better. The penalty count was heavily against us in the 2nd half but defensively we look very vulnerable out wide.

To me its a bit of a hangover from last season but it also comes down to the lack of proper preparation for the season. Like last season everything seems half baked and structurally we don't look like we've a clear idea as to what we are trying to achieve.

I think Europe is our realistic target. Worcester and Brive in particular have massive worries domestically and I doubt Oyonnax will be too bothered. Like back in the bad old days we are relying on the Challenge Cup to keep our season alive.
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8 years 6 months ago #57594 by Siob
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tlocke wrote: I thought the ref was pretty poor as well. Cardiff players never supported their own weight and got away with it every time.


He was consistent though. Cardiff figured out how much he was going to allow them and stuck to it, even when he called the on same defender 3+ times in a row at the breakdown, it was never going to be anything more, they knew where the line was.

There were a few headless chickens moments from Connacht too, looking for the miracle pass. It looks like the skills are all still there, and the frantic stuff pops up when players see a chance, the difference from 2 years ago seems to be confidence, when there were usually multiple opportunities created in a match, they could be calmer about each one because it wouldn't be the last.
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8 years 6 months ago #57593 by Mark Mostyn
Replied by Mark Mostyn on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports

Cathalsmart wrote: We might still have a chance of qualifying for Europe because of how rubbish the conference is, top 2 is already set in stone imo and bare in mind the Cheetahs can't qualify for Europe so atm we are there but my main worry is it would be a miracle if we get another in our next 3 matches meaning confidence will be very low, this was the chance to get back on track and we completely screwed it up.


Very hard to see the 7th team coming from our conference.

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8 years 6 months ago #57592 by tlocke
Replied by tlocke on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
I thought the ref was pretty poor as well. Cardiff players never supported their own weight and got away with it every time.

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8 years 6 months ago #57591 by Cathalsmart
Replied by Cathalsmart on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
We might still have a chance of qualifying for Europe because of how rubbish the conference is, top 2 is already set in stone imo and bare in mind the Cheetahs can't qualify for Europe so atm we are there but my main worry is it would be a miracle if we get another in our next 3 matches meaning confidence will be very low, this was the chance to get back on track and we completely screwed it up.

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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #57590 by Mark Mostyn
Replied by Mark Mostyn on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
An exciting finish saved the game as a spectacle somewhat, but up til then that was one of the worst games I've ever seen. Awful performance from us in pretty much every regard.

Defensive system was very poor against an extremely average Cardiff attack, the players clearly don't know where to be, Halaholo cut straight through for his try on first phase ball (?) running a simple outside to in line.

Attack was rudderless, first try only came after 29 painful phases of one out runners struggling to break the gainline, again lads blatantly didn't know what to do at times. Cardiff had a 96% tackle success rate, because we did very little to make things difficult for them. They were able to chop down our ball carriers with low tackles very easily. Backs only created one clean break, which was due to a rubbish read from Cuthbert.

Set piece was pretty good, 100% success at lineout and scrum. We're still very bad at kickoffs though.

We won a few turnovers at the breakdown but didn't protect our own ball well enough.

Whereas the coaches have to take the blame for the lack of structure in attack and defence, the players have to shoulder the responsibility for the atrocious discipline. Muldoon's yellow and McKeon's the penalties were incredibly infuriating.

Skill levels were poor, conditions were a lot worse than they appeared on TV but I was still disappointed with the handling on show.

Positives, hmm. Delahunt, Carey, Farrell, and Ili all brought a good impact from the bench. Heffernan was immense, but had to work with some very dodgy ball. Dillane showed signs of being back to his abrasive best.

Being realistic, I don't think we're going to qualify for Europe this year, I'd be happy with a clear improvement in our structures and development of individual players.
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8 years 6 months ago #57589 by Mac65
Replied by Mac65 on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
I would sadly go so far as to say it will probably be 1/6 before Europe.
Just thinking that it is a good job Connacht is not a English Soccer club!

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8 years 6 months ago #57588 by columoc
Replied by columoc on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
Looking at next two fixture it looks like 1/5

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8 years 6 months ago #57587 by Cathalsmart
Replied by Cathalsmart on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
We just left our brain in the dressing room today, and on the very few occasions when we did something right we instantly gave Cardiff back the initiative without them needing to do anything.

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8 years 6 months ago #57586 by tlocke
Replied by tlocke on topic Connacht v Cardiff 15:15 SkySports
As soon at the opposition move the ball out wide they seem to nearly always score a try. This season and last season.
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