Craic Head wrote: They all played for Connacht in the interpros, they trained here, reside here, study here? They are from Connacht.

I didnt realise Westmeath(McVeigh), Laois(Moloney) and London(Romaine) were in Connacht.
Thanks for the geography lesson.

I've never claimed they arent connacht players, but they are not from connacht.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Connacht pursue Carberry, Dwan, O'Connor and maybe Oliver.

They all played for Connacht in the interpros, they trained here, reside here, study here? They are from Connacht.

It's fairly simple, I never said they didn't have connacht connections or werent representing connacht, but only one of the players were developed within a connacht school or club.

clanman wrote: even Cian Romaine his family are from Roscommon as far as I am aware. It doesn't matter where they are from or what school they went to, they are here now with Connacht, same goes with many in the senior team we treat them all as if they are our own.

What Clanman said!

even Cian Romaine his family are from Roscommon as far as I am aware. It doesn't matter where they are from or what school they went to, they are here now with Connacht, same goes with many in the senior team we treat them all as if they are our own.

Does it really matter? We have 5 players, who are currently representing Connacht in the squad

I think McVeigh was originally from Athlone and his father played for Athlone , Buccs and a bit with Connacht. Family moved east

ormond lad wrote:

Bayern wrote:

GTTC wrote: The problem is they did not use any of the money on development when they were at their prime. It all went on bringing NIQ big signings ( which you could argue the majority were poor ). And redeveloping Thomond and Musgrave. ( which they can not fill or do not use anymore )

Leinster, granted have more numbers but they have pumped so much money into Development Officers.

If you go back over the numbers in underage squads the past 3/4 years. We have a higher of representatives then Munster normally now. And that is with a lower player base.

Overall though, I think they are in massive massive trouble.

you have more numbers this year because of exiles(Romaine) and leinster schools players(Moloney, Gaffney & McVeigh)

And several of those players are from Connacht. Played other age grades with Connacht. Theyre Connacht players not leinster schools players

Romaine is from the uk.
Gaffney is from Connacht but went to a leinster school for rugby reasons.
Moloney and McVeigh are from Leinster and went to Leinster schools and played for Leinster underage teams before joining connacht academy/sub-academy.
O'Donnell is the exception.

Bayern wrote:

GTTC wrote: The problem is they did not use any of the money on development when they were at their prime. It all went on bringing NIQ big signings ( which you could argue the majority were poor ). And redeveloping Thomond and Musgrave. ( which they can not fill or do not use anymore )

Leinster, granted have more numbers but they have pumped so much money into Development Officers.

If you go back over the numbers in underage squads the past 3/4 years. We have a higher of representatives then Munster normally now. And that is with a lower player base.

Overall though, I think they are in massive massive trouble.

you have more numbers this year because of exiles(Romaine) and leinster schools players(Moloney, Gaffney & McVeigh)

And several of those players are from Connacht. Played other age grades with Connacht. Theyre Connacht players not leinster schools players

GTTC wrote: So Jones and Keatley do not count as Munster. And Marmion as Connacht in the Senior Squad ( assume all 3 will be in the announcement tomorrow! )

for the purposes of player development they don't.. Jones/Keatley produced by Leinster schools/underage and Marmion by exile program.

So Jones and Keatley do not count as Munster. And Marmion as Connacht in the Senior Squad ( assume all 3 will be in the announcement tomorrow! )

GTTC wrote: The problem is they did not use any of the money on development when they were at their prime. It all went on bringing NIQ big signings ( which you could argue the majority were poor ). And redeveloping Thomond and Musgrave. ( which they can not fill or do not use anymore )

Leinster, granted have more numbers but they have pumped so much money into Development Officers.

If you go back over the numbers in underage squads the past 3/4 years. We have a higher of representatives then Munster normally now. And that is with a lower player base.

Overall though, I think they are in massive massive trouble.

you have more numbers this year because of exiles(Romaine) and leinster schools players(Moloney, Gaffney & McVeigh)

The problem is they did not use any of the money on development when they were at their prime. It all went on bringing NIQ big signings ( which you could argue the majority were poor ). And redeveloping Thomond and Musgrave. ( which they can not fill or do not use anymore )

Leinster, granted have more numbers but they have pumped so much money into Development Officers.

If you go back over the numbers in underage squads the past 3/4 years. We have a higher of representatives then Munster normally now. And that is with a lower player base.

Overall though, I think they are in massive massive trouble.

clanman wrote:

Evil_g wrote: So:

Leinster 14
Ulster 7
Connacht 5
Munster 4

What is going wrong in Munster? The current batch of u-20s would've been 11 or 12 when they first won the Heineken Cup.

And three who went to Cistercian College Roscrea....almost the same as Munster.

Nigel clearly doesn't rate Séan O'Hagan then

Evil_g wrote: So:

Leinster 14
Ulster 7
Connacht 5
Munster 4

What is going wrong in Munster? The current batch of u-20s would've been 11 or 12 when they first won the Heineken Cup.

the problem is even with all the success they failed to spread Rugby into the GAA heartland at underage level anway