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13 years 4 months ago #12368 by Porterbelly
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Demented Mole have a good piece out now as well

If only our journalists were as interesting and insightful
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13 years 4 months ago #12364 by connachtexile
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Missed it. Read the retraction though but left it out above since it wasn't relevant.

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13 years 4 months ago #12347 by menacethedenis
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I should add the rest of their post was, as usual, very good

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13 years 4 months ago #12346 by menacethedenis
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ummm, wrote: They weren't criticising him, just wondering out loud if he's entirely necessary, holding on to his job out of some sort of loyalty to an amateur bygone and because he gives the players sweets.

Huge storm in a tea cup, they asked a question and it was as if someone suggested Mother Teresa was the town bicycle, people don't like their icons to be touched.

I actually thought it was a fair question, but badly phrased.


They suggested he be shuffled into retirement which is more a statement of opinion than a question and it was completely unnecessary. Hence the removal. But yes, some people got very worked up over it!

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13 years 4 months ago #12345 by ummm,
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They weren't criticising him, just wondering out loud if he's entirely necessary, holding on to his job out of some sort of loyalty to an amateur bygone and because he gives the players sweets.

Huge storm in a tea cup, they asked a question and it was as if someone suggested Mother Teresa was the town bicycle, people don't like their icons to be touched.

I actually thought it was a fair question, but badly phrased.

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13 years 4 months ago #12344 by sea_point
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menacethedenis wrote: Did anyone see the first draft of that Whiff Of Cordite blog post where they bizarrely laid into Rala?


No, they seem to have removed it by popular demand apparently. Seems odd that the bag-man would be the target for criticism, didn't realise he was part of Kindey's selection committee...?

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13 years 4 months ago #12336 by menacethedenis
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Did anyone see the first draft of that Whiff Of Cordite blog post where they bizarrely laid into Rala?

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13 years 4 months ago #12330 by connachtexile
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Whiff of Crodite again:

Unlike most countries, Ireland’s blazers (who gave themselves a self-congratulatory 5 pages in the Bok match programme) ignore the (professional) RWC as a marker in the national teams development, preferring their school chums favourite tournament – the braying old Six Nations.

Thus after 2007, Ireland endured Eddie’s swansong, and after RWC11, while other countries started afresh with a 4 year plan, the IRFU stumbled around the like amateurs they are with a contract through to the 2013 Six Nations. The year 2012, once the glow of the Argentina game fades, will be recalled as a year marked by operational disasters and on-field listlessness as the team slumped into the last months of Deccie’s contract. Organisational mishaps have followed Ireland around and been allowed to fester.

When Deccie came on board, he brought a crisp and fresh management team with defined roles – Les Kiss and Gert Smal were a breath of fresh air and for all the talk of Deccie getting the luck that Eddie didn’t, the famous Gary Player quote deserves to be recalled – the more Ireland practised the luckier they got, and a fully deserved Grand Slam was delivered through innovation and hard work. Post RWC11, that coaching team has evolved into something of a dogs dinner – Les Kiss gets shunted around, Gert Smal’s role is unclear, and Axel Foley and Greg Feek get drafted in and out to fill in gaps.

The nadir was the Mick Kearney’s first week as team manager in January 2012 – his first act was to get slapped down by the IRB for suggesting Barnes had admitted Fez’s tackle shouldn’t have been penalised in the Wales game. It was not the most auspicious start to his new job, but was symptomatic of a set-up which was seemingly intent on continuously criticising match officials.

The penny-pinching that characterised Ireland’s efforts in the dawn of professionalism reared its head again this year. For the end-of-season tour to NZ, a small squad was selected despite the inevitability of injuries – no lessons were learned from 2010 when armies of players came out one at a time. Before the final test in Hamilton, the players had to check out of their hotels in advance to save a nights room charge, and Paddy Wallace was grabbed from a Portuguese beach and fast-tracked into the side, with wholly predictable results.

The story in the Sunday Times last week where O’Reilly revealed the turkeys at Lansdowne Road might be on the verge of voting for Christmas is long delayed. The appointment of a professional director of rugby with a meaningful role would be a hugely welcome development – the present structure in Ireland is not fit for the purpose of producing consistently well-prepared and successful sides. The idea that Deccie has to sit in front of some amateur volunteers and justify his selection and tactics for a Test match is a sepia-tinged anachronism in this, the 18th year of professional rugby – we have been critical of Deccie for his selection and tactics, but we don’t envy him for having to deal with the old farts of Lansdowne Road. Without brushing over the work these unpaid volunteers do, this is a job for a professional.

Perhaps the most important function of the new role would be managing the relationship between provinces and national team. The head coach having to enforce the Player Welfare rules with provincial coaches has surely not helped Ireland’s cause over the last season or so, particularly as the dichotomy between their relative performances has emerged. We’ve said before that Ireland going down the road of Country vs. Province can only end in failure, and that remains the case. Taking the head coach out of the firing line might also negate the need for the media to peddle this agenda, which has become especially trying. At one point in the last month an interview with Eoin Reddan was headlined ‘Reddan Defends Provincial Success’. Such silliness has to end.


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13 years 4 months ago #12224 by connachtexile
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we are not communists afterall.


And here was me thinking your fan base was called the Red Army. Can't see the player thing happening either but I think a performance director is needed. Having a multimillion euro brand been ran by a bunch of lads who don't have a strong business/sport/admin background is not smart thinking. For my money I'd love to have Conor O'Shea be the guy with his CV, background and knowledge of Irish Rugby it would seem the perfect fit.

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13 years 4 months ago #12218 by rossie
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whatever about a performance director givin him the power to move players from province to province is a non starter. i cant see any of the provinces supporting that.
his example of nagle was poorly researched in that nagle has been injured for a significant period of those two yrs. hes onky just back and starts this evening. it does show the colour of his hat tho.

if leinster want nagle to shore up their second row all they have to do is make him an offer he cant refuse. we are not communists afterall.

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13 years 4 months ago #12217 by Mac65
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Could this be Ireland's "57 Old farts" moment ????

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13 years 4 months ago - 13 years 4 months ago #12213 by connachtexile
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From the Sunday Times:

Yesterday's clash with Argentina might have billed as Irish Rugby's day of reckoning but a meeting in the Aviva Stadium on Wednesday could have an even more profound effect on how professional rugby develops in this country. The third 'Plan Ireland' seminar organized by the at the behest of the IRFU is expected to trigger the most significant power sift here since the sport went professional in 1995, with the amateur committee men soon ceding responsibility for the biggest decisions to professionals. The appointment next year of a performance director to whom national and provincial coaches would answer, looks increasingly likely...

A performance director could also reduce the wastage of playing resources , when one province has an excess of talent in the very position that another province is lacking. Irish rugby cannot afford to have many more cases like Ian Nagle, man of the match for Munster aganist Australia tow years ago this month but barely seen since, partly because he's a lock playing in a province where they are 10 a penny, while Leinster have gone to all the ends of the earth to fill the No 5 jersey.


Does this mean the end of the 15 man committee were the 3 provinces would vote there boys in and we'd be boned? This has to be a good thing for Connacht right?

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