McGahan leaving Munster.

Lads i never thought that a forum whould have such an impact on you in the way mf seems to have.

Its an internet forum and as a result people can hide behind silly nicknames which can bring out the worst in people. Not all of them are munster fans either. some of the biggest shit stirrers i seen there are from here but thats all part of the craic! You must remember its a forum with a very large membership, i think the record for members logged on in one day is 750, so your bound to have a few asses hiding among them.By and large i find it to be a humerous and in many cases informative forum. I also go on Babbing Brook and uafc and they talk just as much shite there. Just as mf some do it for the rise and others just cant help themselves.

They have a thread on Connacht which by and large is very supportive and largely complimentary but there is banter between the likes of the outlaw(who i presume is here under a different name) and a few of the Munster lads but i for one enjoy their little snipes at each other.

On the Keatley issue, i was in Thomond tonite and for 30 minutes he was brilliant. He controlled the game, found some lovely touches inside their 22 and (most importantly) landed 4 lovely kicks. I thought to myself that this is more like it and that maybe he could be the longterm solution at 10. After 30 min tho he and the team seemed to lose concentration.The game became a mess for 20/30 min and he missed 2 very kickable penalties before cardiff took over and Munster were lucky to hold out for the win. 66% kicking conversion rate is just not good enuough and no matter how well he does in other aspects(which also need consistancy)he will never be rated unless he delivers the points from the tee.

Munsterfans is a site I used to enjoy viewing and it used be good as it wasn't just confined to rugby but current affairs, other sports, other teams etc and it used to be good to go there and maybe read through a thread about a Munster game if Connacht were playing the same night or if you hadn't seen the game etc.

There are a lot of posters on the site who are very knowledgeable on the game and always have interesting views but those numbers have been declining in the last 3/4 years as these interesting posters are either leaving the site or are lowering themselves to being dragged into debates with childish nonsense that has wrecked many good threads.

I used to be logged on to the site but haven't bothered re-registering after the site changed as there is just too much nonsense to trawl through to get the interesting points.

We are much smaller in number here but at least the threads are practical, are a chance for everyone to air their views and aren't blighted with 5 or more pages of tit for tat nonsense.

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Wow i wonder how that appointment would go down with BOD. He has never forgiven him for 2005.

The IMF wrote: Wow i wonder how that appointment would go down with BOD. He has never forgiven him for 2005.

rogue,

you are right BODs opinion and feelings wont come into it in any shape or form.

I have to say this one is from left field and taken me completely by surprise. Im not sure what umaga will bring to the table that Dougie wouldnt(as a backs coach) given the stated experience he has so this may be one of those kites that get flown occasionally. I agree though that munster need a better backs and head coach than currently in position.They dont necessarily have to be the same person tho and there may well be two appointments made. Ive never heard of the other guy mentioned but then id never heard of schmidt either prior to clermont.
Foley will be staying either in his current position or as head coach. im pretty sure of that. Maybe it will be all three of them with axel forwards, umaga backs and your man Head coach.
The squad is generally in good shape(when injuries clear) and all thats really required is two quality back up props for wian and bj.
After that it will just require a change in tactical approach, not a reinvention just a change, and some players roles within the team and team requirements of them clarified and accepted and Munster will be back on the road again.

I don't understand for one moment the Umaga bit. Umaga was a failure at Toulon period and hasn't coached at a top level since afaik. While Leinster with Schmidt got a guy who wasn't a head coach before but had a coaching record which was extensive and quite successful. Munster need a guy who has done the apprenticeship had success at that level and is looking for the next step up. Not some "name" who was a good player but has zero experience off the pitch. Sport is littered with great players who were crap coaches.

I also personally think that Umaga is human trash and that an Irish team are thinking of giving him a job is ridiculous and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Connacht exile,

I dont think you or anyone has the right to call a rugby player human trash for any reason and especially for an incident on a rugby field. The history of the game is littered with distasteful incidents many of which were carried out by top class professionals of their era.
BOD is a great player but things happen and sometmes we as a nation are a bit over protective of him.

That said i agree with everything else you said in your post. I can only assume that he interviewed well and 2nd interviews are on next week (according to Corcoran) so nothing is decided yet. Of the three mentioned(having researched him since last nite) Penney appears to be the most qualified by far so may yet get the head job. Whether umaga is on the ticket remains to be seen. There is strong talk of a new backs coach coming in as well tho so we will have to wait and see.

I was told this morning that it looks like axel has gotten Head Coach job, finalising small details and should be announced this week.

I dont think you or anyone has the right to call a rugby player human trash for any reason and especially for an incident on a rugby field. The history of the game is littered with distasteful incidents many of which were carried out by top class professionals of their era.

Umaga-Based on his coaching exerience and then his coaching success,why would he even be considered ?

Axel -For sure ,possibly an excellent candidate for the future, provincial and International ,but certainly not now .Remember Steve Staunton ? (Similar situation to a certain extent but same in that i think his position is being considered out of Hype and his playing career )

I cant even understand what this Thread is doing on a Connacht Supporters Club Forum????? If McGahan is Leaving Munster so what...off with him!!

Connman wrote: I cant even understand what this Thread is doing on a Connacht Supporters Club Forum????? If McGahan is Leaving Munster so what...off with him!!

Fair point Borders

Connacht exile,
I wasnt aware of the comments in his book or even that he had a book so merely assumed your comments were based on tackle and defensive attitude in immediate aftermath and i agree that it was a terrible tackle and the attitude of every one involved in the aftermath should have been better.

I am aware that many kiwi and southern hemisphere rugby fans believe that we in ireland overreacted to this tackle and should have gotten over it quicker than we have done. We as a rugby nation have taken an extrordinarily long time to put this, admittedly unsavoury, incident behind us.
I can only assume, as i dont know the man personally and as a result refrain from commenting on his charector off the field, that he shares this view and feels the unexpected and unprecedented vilification he recieved in the irish and british media was way over the top and extremely damaging to him personally.
Those same Media forgave Eric Cantona and Trevor Brennan for attacking fans in the stands and the Rfu Dean Richards for bloodgate far quicker. Peter Clohesy stamped on an opposing players head and Alan Quinlan Gouged and were qiuckly forgiven which highlights the inconsistancy in attitudes in our media and subsequently our sporting public.
In addition to these points there were two people involved in this tackle but noone even mentions Kevin Mealamu but choose to target their anger at Umaga because he was the face of that all black team at a time that the lions felt they could go to New Zealand and win and ultimately failed and failed extremely expensively.
I also hope that he isnt employed by Munster Rugby but not because of that tackle but merely because i think there are better candidates out there for the job.

I am aware that many kiwi and southern hemisphere rugby fans believe that we in ireland overreacted to this tackle and should have gotten over it quicker than we have done. We as a rugby nation have taken an extrordinarily long time to put this, admittedly unsavoury, incident behind us.

I can only assume, as i dont know the man personally and as a result refrain from commenting on his charector off the field, that he shares this view and feels the unexpected and unprecedented vilification he recieved in the irish and british media was way over the top and extremely damaging to him personally.

Those same Media forgave Eric Cantona and Trevor Brennan for attacking fans in the stands and the Rfu Dean Richards for bloodgate far quicker. Peter Clohesy stamped on an opposing players head and Alan Quinlan Gouged and were qiuckly forgiven which highlights the inconsistancy in attitudes in our media and subsequently our sporting public.

In addition to these points there were two people involved in this tackle but noone even mentions Kevin Mealamu but choose to target their anger at Umaga because he was the face of that all black team at a time that the lions felt they could go to New Zealand and win and ultimately failed and failed extremely expensively.

I also hope that he isnt employed by Munster Rugby but not because of that tackle but merely because i think there are better candidates out there for the job.