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11 years 7 months ago #1892

Overall, what are peoples opinions on the RWC? I greatly enjoyed it. Some great games, the lower tiers are getting stronger and must say really enjoyed the social breakfasts with mates.

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11 years 7 months ago #1893

Good competition, some games were walkovers some games were not, Some noteable results by some of the home nations but overall the competiotion was overshadowed by appalling referreeing. There has to be some consistency brought into both Southeren Hemisphere and Northern Hemisphere, Joubair or how ever you spell it, referreed differently today for two different teams !!! what the Allblacks got away with compared to the French is in my oppinion bordering on favouritism towards the Southern hemisphere.
This needs to be sorted by the IRB if they want this competition to be credible.
Best team won in the end. :P

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11 years 7 months ago #1894

Good competition, some games were walkovers some games were not, Some noteable results by some of the home nations but overall the competiotion was overshadowed by appalling referreeing. There has to be some consistency brought into both Southeren Hemisphere and Northern Hemisphere, Joubair or how ever you spell it, referreed differently today for two different teams !!! what the Allblacks got away with compared to the French is in my oppinion bordering on favouritism towards the Southern hemisphere.
This needs to be sorted by the IRB if they want this competition to be credible.
Best team won in the end. :P


I felt the same about Joubert's display today - at the breakdown it seemed as though the all blacks were let do whatever they wanted to slow things down (hands everywhere, in from the side, off their feet etc), but when France infringed he blew it up straight away.

In the context of the entire tournament, there's no doubt about it, the best team won. But if you forget about that, I felt the French deserved to win that match. Having said that, they were probably only in a position to threaten because of the all blacks unbelievable bad luck with their 10's, combined with Weepu's desperate kicking display.

Back to the question, I really enjoyed the world cup. The time difference was a bit of a pain, because I would normally like to see a lot more of the games than I ended up seeing, but that can't really be helped. It was also an incredibly frustrating world cup from an Irish perspective - don't get me wrong, it was our best ever (despite not actually getting any further than we have before), but after we went out, we saw a semi final that I genuinely think we would have won, followed by a final we would have had a decent chance in (considering how the all blacks imploded).

Anyway it's all over now - time to refocus on Connacht (although I am already looking forward to the six nations, and our opening game against Wales. Revenge being a dish best served cold and all that!).

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11 years 7 months ago #1896

For me it was a good World Cup but not a great one, France was a great RWC despite some average rugby and some dreadful performances/results for Ireland. At the end of this seven week marathon I was really feeling fatigue, it may be a result of the crazy kick off times though. Obviously player welfare must take priority over my domestic arangments though… 

It was good to see the Kiwi's turn out this time for the lesser games. There were still plenty of games where there were blocks of empty seats though which just shoud not happen.

Officiating is the major area for concern, there is still a glaring lack of consistency in the application of the laws across the tounament, as defined by the global witch-hunt of Alain Rolland for his correct appplication of Law 10.4 by an ignorant public. Inconsisten application done a lot of damage to the greater understanding of the game and just increases tensions both on and off the pitch. Paddy O’Brein is culpable for this and I really hope that he is replaced sooner rather than later with a more efficient and trustowrthy candidate…

French will feel dissapointed by yesterdays result as they were the better side for most of the game, Joubert as anticpated only refereed one side during the game and he completely copped out from making any tough decisions. There were at least six high tackles by te Kiwi’s, three of which could definitely have warrented a yellow. But not even a word of caution from Joubert. The reason? If he had cautioned the Kiwi’s then he would have had to card one of them next time around. Never mind offside at virtually every ruck by Brad Thorn who hit the ruck legally intially and then rolled around the side of the ruck. To their credit the French haven’t moaned about Joubert, probably realising that they have had the rub of the green on a few occaions in the past and doing so would detract from what was probaly their best RWC2011 performance somewhat…

If the French are fined for their challenge of the Haka yesterday then I feel the greater rugby communtity should do a collection and pay the resulting fine, how you could possibly fine a team for challenging a warriorr challenge that ends in a throat slitting gesture? Pure maddness that only the the SANZAR ruled IRB could enforce..

To be honest I’m sick and tired of the pandering to the Kiwi’s sensitivites (and if I see another Flashmob Haka ever I’ll spew). But hopefully finally winning a second World Cup and getting a monkey (winning one outside of NZ still remains, Aussies have done two, SA and England one each)) will give the Kiwi’s a litte more perspective, but given their insecurities derived from their geographical isolation it does remain to be seen…

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11 years 7 months ago #1897

I had fun.

Absolutely agree about the Rolland witch hunt, it was shocking. Too many people showing their ignorance of the laws of the game, the most disturbing part of it was the number of players who have no clue.

The final was fun, not a classic, but after 24 years it's about time the best team in the world for almost all of those 24 finally won. It was like waiting for Brazil to win the soccerball WC. Now that they've won it they'll probably go on to win three in a row or something stupid like that.

France were... France. There's no way a team that lost to Tonga and NZ in the pool stages deserved to be world champs. They might have been entertaining, but there's fun and there's ridiculous.

Ireland should have done better. I still can't believe Wales made us look ordinary. Not to take anything away from Wales, they were brilliant, but I've never seen us fold like that before.

As a tournament, the rugby bit was fun. But there are many things that need to be sorted out before it can be a joy for all. The treatment of the lesser nations (in terms of the fixtures) was shocking. The ridiculous fines handed out for players 'wearing the wrong mouth guard' was soulless and not in keeping with the game.

NZ will lose money as hosts, the iRB demand so much money for the honour of hosting the tournament they're biting off their noses. That can't continue.


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11 years 7 months ago #1901

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NZ will lose money as hosts, the iRB demand so much money for the honour of hosting the tournament they're biting off their noses. That can't continue.


The RWC will never be held in NZ again unless it a shared hosting, the risk associated with holding a global tournament in a country of 4 million people and thousands of miles from the major Rugby Union marketplaces are too great which is what caused the IRB to ask the Kiwi's to stump up the financial guarantee.

Their deperatation to win the RWC forced them in to hosting it exclusively in NZ, it was a massive gamble for the Kiwi's but more so for the IRB and the lower tier nations that rely on the profit of the RWC’s to finance rugby development in their countries. If you look at the IRB expenditure since RWC 2003 & 2007, these have paid for major investment like centres of excellence in all the Pacific Rim nations. It will also aid Argentina in bridging their participation in Tr-Nations and Super Rugby….

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11 years 7 months ago #1902

I enjoyed it to be honest. The Kiwis put on a great tournament, no trouble at it, no issues at all really. The only complaints were related to the rugby/officiating and that's a very good sign of how well they ran it.
Ummm... you have never seen Ireland fold like that before? Come on... the entire RWC 07 was a gigantic collective fold. I think Ireland have a few major weaknesses that were not sorted out in time and they told come crunch time. Hopefully we can move on from this now and bring a new generation of Irish players to the fore-front in time for RWC 2015.

Re: Rolland, I don't know how wide the witch hunt was but I think that anyone with a modicum of rugby knowledge knows (deep down even the Welsh know) that Rolland was following the rules.


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11 years 7 months ago #1903

Ah, you're right.

I have seen us fold like that before  :D


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11 years 7 months ago #1923

I don't think this was picked up by the citing commissioner, but this video of Rougerie looks pretty nasty:

Aurélien Rougerie Eye Gouges Richie McCaw In 2011 RWC Final

Frustration obviously got the better of him, but there's no excuse for it really.

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